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Rhino wrote: That's why your puffy Bud(water retention) we told you running a low dose would help control the sides you experience and would have made pct easier.
So it's not the Deca as any compound Equi and test included will have the same effect. Once you start your pct water will drop with your weight. And you won't look puffy anymore

What he said

Thanks Rhino,

I appreciate the feedback.
So now that we have established I am prone to a bit of facial water retention, you are advising that in future I take a low dose of letro throughout my cycle? I had femara on hand. Would that have helped?

Thanks again,

Nate

That's the stuff, same shit different smell.
Remember that I don't suffer that due to diuretics

So should I run diuretics next time during cycle? Or as Rhino said run some femara?

As Rhino said bud.
Don't take diuretics unless you are competitive, I have to use them for bp so please sont play with that. I only mentioned it because I don't suffer water retention. Letro,adex, femara as the gents said

Nate40 wrote: Thanks Rhino,

I appreciate the feedback.
So now that we have established I am prone to a bit of facial water retention, you are advising that in future I take a low dose of letro throughout my cycle? I had femara on hand. Would that have helped?

Thanks again,

Nate

Femara is letrozole so it would have helped. On the other side, water retention is very good for gains so don't be afraid of it.

Pyroclasm wrote: On the other side, water retention is very good for gains so don't be afraid of it.

That's interesting. So I have absolutely Zero Water retention on my current Deca, Test cycle. Is this a problem If you are trying to 'bulk' then? I'm running Adex E2D. 0.4mg.. If I were drop this dosage could I gain some water Pyro?

Thanks Pyro. I was under the false impression for some reason that a letro like femara was for gyno symptoms only. Didn't realise it helped with all the side effects.
Will definitely add femara or arimidex to next cycle then. Thanks guys.

RonTheSaveg wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: On the other side, water retention is very good for gains so don't be afraid of it.

That's interesting. So I have absolutely Zero Water retention on my current Deca, Test cycle. Is this a problem If you are trying to 'bulk' then? I'm running Adex E2D. 0.4mg.. If I were drop this dosage could I gain some water Pyro?

The reason why you haven't bloated is because of the AI you are running and I am also assuming your diet is pretty clean. Note that there are different types of water retention and the one good for gains is intra-muscular water retention. Obviously when your cheeks or neck bloats this won't affect your gains, but it is good for fat loss. The main point is not to be afraid water retention but rather to embrace it. No reason for example to cut out sodium from your diet. It is GOOD for gains!

Thanks Pyro,

So you saying that considering i am not gyno prone, I should rather leave the letro or arimidex during cycle, and accept the facial bloating due to water retention, because it is ultimately good for fat loss?

Regards,

Nate

Welcome to 40! I'm on the verge of 50. It's all in your head anyway, train regularly, eat healthy and enjoy life.

Regarding your cycle .. Why not rather focus on the symptoms of aging than running a full blown cycle?

Blood tests a good idea together with starting TRT. This is a decision for life, so do your research carefully. Keep an eye on your hadmoglobin and hematocrit..

Keep it simple, boosting your ailing testosterone will work wonders in adding value to your life. It has for me.

Ps: don't believe all the hype around cholesterol and CVD.

Nate the facial bloat was far from your only side. Both MA and I told you many times to use some AI. Your had ED and never mind your emotions which all had to do with your high estrogen levels.

Thanks Rhino. Understood guys. AI on the next cycle then. Thanks man

@Rhino
Sorry just getting confused with all these abbreviations again my friend.
I need to take an AI (aromatose inhibitor) like arimidex on cycle. Understood.
What about a letro (letrozole) like femara.
I see Heritage is going to use both on cycle.
A bit confused.

Nate

Nate40 wrote: @Rhino
Sorry just getting confused with all these abbreviations again my friend.
I need to take an AI (aromatose inhibitor) like arimidex on cycle. Understood.
What about a letro (letrozole) like femara.
I see Heritage is going to use both on cycle.
A bit confused.

Nate

Hi Nate,

Will not be using Letro, it will be on hand.
Definitely using adex for water retention as well preventative measures for gyno etc.

Shot.