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04 Dec 2015 11:23 #193772 by Rooi Bul 86

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Not going to run a Cycle now. Just preparing. If you read both threads you would have seen that.

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04 Dec 2015 11:26 #193773 by Rooi Bul 86

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As I said in Training at home with a bench and pair of dumbells thread. Do have a skipping rope. My resukts have been slow but consistent. That is the way Furk and Pyro advised me to do it and that is how diet is planned also.

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04 Dec 2015 11:42 #193774 by Fakey_AK

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Back pack filled with weights for sqauts, lunges,push ups(decline, flat or incline)

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04 Dec 2015 12:20 #193776 by Rooi Bul 86

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Shot for that Fakey.

Will give that a go too.

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05 Dec 2015 10:25 #193792 by Rooi Bul 86

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Hi guys.

Down with flu. All in my chest throat and head. At work can not lay off or take off. Did a 15k run last Sunday and yesterday. Woke up feeling this bad today. Going to push vitamin c and hydration to work this mother out.

@ Furk and Pyro. Is banting and keto similar?

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09 Dec 2015 20:38 #193889 by Pyroclasm

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Yes very much. Keto is basically the Banting diet optimized for highest performance and fastest results. Banting is not that strict at all because it was designed to be a lifestyle change, not to be used by somebody stepping on a bodybuilding stage in 4 weeks.

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09 Dec 2015 20:40 #193890 by Rooi Bul 86

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Noted.

Thanks for that Pyro.

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14 Dec 2015 19:58 #194076 by Rooi Bul 86

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Pyro.

Ek is spyt ek het nie vroer full Keto gegaan nie minder as n week vandag ek Al's reg gekry het en nou full keto down en al klaar 1kg gedrop.

Ek gaan my lyf nog so n paar dae gee om the adjust na Keto toe.
Botter as n form van Vet?

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14 Dec 2015 20:02 #194077 by Pyroclasm

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Julle wil mos nie vir my luister nie.

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14 Dec 2015 20:10 #194078 by Rooi Bul 86

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The Keto is like magic serious.

Strength and energy up. I feel fuller for longer that is the magic of fat.

I mean wow not even a week and 1kg down.
My girl says my chest looks bigger.
Protein? 80/160g per day?

Pyro you are a Legend Man.

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14 Dec 2015 20:25 #194079 by Pyroclasm

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Thanx bro! Max 2.5g per kg LBM.

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14 Dec 2015 22:24 #194089 by Fakey_AK

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Not to be a ball buster but that 1kg is water. With that said i can easily drop 2 maybe 3 pushing it with keto in just over a week. One of the reasons i love keto is the water dropping capabilities. I do believe you lose fullness of the muscle. But guess thats why refeeds are great again.

Oh and in no way am i knocking keto just incase.

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15 Dec 2015 05:12 #194094 by Rooi Bul 86

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Thanks for your input Fakey.
Will always consider your advice you came far I mean 6% with no AAS that in itself is a feat most guys won't try or reach without AAS.

Big up to you.

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15 Dec 2015 07:02 #194095 by Fakey_AK

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I wont say no AAS, i am on trt for life that its upped at the moment and i just recently added tbol to the mix. But it is very possible to get to 6% completely natty but muscle loss will be inevitable, that is the only down side.

But keep strong and at it. Discipline and dedication and most importantly consistency pays off at the end of the day.

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15 Dec 2015 08:29 #194105 by Rooi Bul 86

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@ Fakey.

When on normal TRT dose what is the normal dose? Are you running an AI now? Do you also run an AI when on normal TRT dose?

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18 Dec 2015 06:36 #194189 by Rooi Bul 86

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Hi, Guys.

Pyro, sorry just another Keto question. So butter is a good fat on Keto. What about Coconut oil? Sunday will be one week fulls Keto and I really love the energy so far. The fat really is keeping hunger at bay. Cuts for me from now on will be Keto my bulks and maintenance on Banting as the two are so close and similar. I got the Banting book Real Meal Revolution. Now want to get a good modern and up to date Ketogenic diet book.

Thank you guys for the advice and help and guidance.

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19 Dec 2015 10:45 #194226 by Rooi Bul 86

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Fasted Weight tody upon wake up 95.2Kg
Wil try get sum pics up tomorrow or Monday Morn for you guys.

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19 Dec 2015 11:09 #194228 by Fakey_AK

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What was your starting weight, and pics would be awesome.

On the keto part coconut oil is good i use it too. What other food sources you using?

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19 Dec 2015 12:36 #194229 by Rooi Bul 86

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Hi Fakey.
Starting weight was 118kg Mid August. There are pics if you go back in this thread will post recent pics Monday Morn.
Start Keto Weight Monday was 97kg

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19 Dec 2015 13:23 #194230 by Rooi Bul 86

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Using Butter. Eggs. Natural Peanut butter.
Minced Beef. Word. Chicken. Fishery. Lamb Tjops.Broccoli and Green Beans and Spinach.

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19 Dec 2015 14:08 #194231 by Fakey_AK

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Things you can add

Nuts
Crackling - not daily
Cream (real cream)
Cheeses
Bacon
Creamed cottage cheese

You can get very creative. Something i did to help with cravings.

High fat snack. Dessert cream + coconut flakes + sweetner + fridge = keto klapper ys.

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19 Dec 2015 14:36 #194232 by Rooi Bul 86

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Thanks Fakey.

Ek het nogal gewonder oor Room. Om by Spinasie te voeg vir room spinasie?
My Daily Fat need works out to 129g and Protein to 160g.
Bacon I also use just forgot that sorry man

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19 Dec 2015 15:14 #194235 by Fakey_AK

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You can even make a cream and mushroom sauce to put over a juicy steak. You will reach those macros easily especially with high fat stuff like i mentioned.

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19 Dec 2015 15:33 #194236 by Pyroclasm

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Rooi Bul 86 wrote: Hi, Guys.

Pyro, sorry just another Keto question. So butter is a good fat on Keto. What about Coconut oil? Sunday will be one week fulls Keto and I really love the energy so far. The fat really is keeping hunger at bay. Cuts for me from now on will be Keto my bulks and maintenance on Banting as the two are so close and similar. I got the Banting book Real Meal Revolution. Now want to get a good modern and up to date Ketogenic diet book.

Thank you guys for the advice and help and guidance.

It's not that butter is a good fat. On Keto any fat is good. Just watch the carb content in anything dairy related (even cream), except cheese which is the food of the gods. Also watch the nuts and nut butter especially peanut butter. I'll give you a tip here: To be in ketosis you need to eat less than 30g of net carbs, and this goes up to about 50g when you have been on for quite a while. But that does not mean you are in deep ketosis. The major difference between Keto and Banting is that Keto optimizes the amount of ketones you produce (which burns calories). So on Banting you can aim for 30g, but on Keto you should aim for ZERO carbs.any carbs you eat will reduce the amount of ketones required. My rule is max 15g.

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19 Dec 2015 15:52 #194237 by Rooi Bul 86

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Thanks for the help and advice Pryro and as always much appreciated.

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