HI Pyro/guys...
Awesome read......
So thanks to Caffeine I went through every Clen page I could find in the search function last night.
Now I have a few questions, mainly about the yohimbine and insulin.
My brother has recently moved in with me. He is now following my Carb Cycling diet. He is 23, and around 12% body fat, was on about 10 starting his December holiday. so he wants to do a clen, Yohimbine, beta sleep cycle to swop the bit of love handles he gained for his 6pack again.
We cannot gym early mornings, so fasted cardio is not a option then.
I work, he studies, so we have to train in the evenings, anywhere in the gap from 17-21:00 hours. So our last meal before the workout is at 16:00 hours, depending on the day with my carb allowance, but this is 99% no carb meal. So often I feel like PW as energy is low after a long day when I get home before gym. Now this is where the questions comes in.
I make my own PW from adding up to 10 ingredients together. This we would drink at 17:00 when driving to gym, and afterwards I make a shake. The shake contains carbs, from fruits, milk, yoghurt, vitargo/dextrose, ect. Now obviously this will spike my insulin as that's what I want POW.
Now because our last carb meal is about 4hours prior to staring the training, Im sure his insulin levels will be low for the yohimbine to work to its full potential. unless any of the following ingredients I add to PW will spike his insulin.
So my question 1) will any of the following I Add to our PW spike insulin levels and stop the yohmfrom working?
Raw unflavoured Bcaa's (10grams)
Extra L-leucine (3-5g)
Glutamine (5g)
Beta Alinine (3-4g)
Argenine AKG (3-5g)
Creatine (Cee, Mono) (5g)
Tuarine (10g)
Caffiene (400-600mg)(will be low dosages while on clen, 200mg??)
DMMA (50-100mg) will not add while on Clen!!
Sweeto for a flavour some days (but even though it show 0cals, I will not be adding it to his PW while on Clen/yohm)
So would it be advised to take the clen dose in the mornings, before our mega shake with oats and carbs ect, and the yohmbine with PW at around 17:00 with low insulin levels?
Post Workout protein shake has lots of carbs, and then the meal after gym also contains starchy carbs. would the insulin spike this causes stop the effectiveness of the yohimbine for the rest of the evening?
We also use multi vitamins, DAA First thing in the mornings, and Gaba before bed at night, and Cla 1000mg x3 per day.
My second question is about myself.
How bad is the above mentioned cycle of clen, yohm, and beta sleep, on muscle wasting? I have never used any of them, so have no idea.
My Bother is still a fair bit sensitive to harsh stimulants, already have shaky hands and is someone who naturally sweats a lot. So I'm thinking of doing the cycle with him for support. To help if sides become to much, or he needs some backup on reactions from the drugs.
But, I Don't want to loose weight, I could go with a 2% drop in body fat percentage, but not at the expense of my muscle.
I'm 27, 191cm, 88kg and had Bf done with a Dexa Scan and calliper few days ago, and I am on 7,3% (I don't compete and never will, so don't want to drop to low as maintenance is a bitch. I already have defined oblique's, v-line etc.)
3) If my Bf Drops lower (what is to low?, I know essential bf differs from man to women) would it be dangerous for me to follow on with my maintenance calorie carb cycling diet with already low BF, with your Cycle on page 1 Pyro. Or should I go and see what happens, learn what the clen/yohm combo is about and form my own opinion with real experience, and stop if I go from lean, to skinny. Or rather just monitor him and help in his effort?
Sorry for the over complicated and long post.
Thanks
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