Everything you need to know about Clenbuterol

1) That Preworkout is fine. The fat burning effects from the Yoh will definately stop after the post wo insulin spike. Don't waste your money on multivits and CLAs and Test Boosters.

2) When you drop below 7% bodyfat you will be at serious risk of muscle wastage and you should find it very hard to add muscle at this low BF. Essential BF for males ranges 2-3%. I would advise you not to drop below 7%.

3) Noble of you to care so much, but leave the fatburners and just be there for your charna. Should any complications come up I will be here to help.

Thank you for the reply Pyro.

1) Do you feel a multi vitamin is unnecessary? :ohmy:
2) With our time and training schedule, would you advise he take the YOH at a different time?

I have been struggling to add size for a few months now. But trying to lean bulk with 101% diet at maintenance Cals. "not adding Fat". :blush: But I will add in more carbs to push up my bf% to help add more muscle.

If your diet is as good as it should be a multivit is really a waste. Dude if you are struggling to gain muscle then eat more calories as simple as that. Your downfall could be that you are eating too clean and hence not able to eat enough.

Good carbs is your friend when you want to build muscle

Hi
Im new to clen and just want to ask a few questions ...

Im 20 year old female ... and want to loose about 10-15kgs .... my body fat :22 % and bmi :22
My goal is to take part in competions in the next year .... really want to achieve it

I am on Tim noaks diet (banting) high in fat, low in carbs. I exercise 5 days a week 20-30 minutes cardio and 30-40 minutes strength training/weight training

1. I want to know what clen cycle is the most affective ? 3 weeks on 3 weeks off ? 2 days on 2 days off?

2. Start with 20 mcg rite? When should you increase your dosage?

3. I dont work out weekends do I stil take clen even though I dont go to gym ? Or only use it when I gym ?

4. Do I take clen before or after a meal ? Before or after gym?

5.Im abit concerned about my heart ... my heart rate peaks too 190 sometimes while gyming without clen.... think I shouldnt take it?

Any expert advice on how to achieve my goals ? Suggestions? Wil clen work for me and how long til I start seeing results? Any advice about my diet and workout ?

Thnx

Maybe this belongs under Dieting & Contest Preparation??

How long have you been on a Keto diet i.e. LCHF?
How much weight have you lost on that diet?
Is that lost weight, fat weight or lean muscle or water?

In theory, your max heart rate for your age is 220 - 20 (age) = 200 Bpm.
What that means in reality....?
You won't explode when you hit 200 bpm. Heart rate from an exercise PoV is just an attempt to measure intensity.

Conservatively, you shouldn't look to loose more than 1kg per week, else you burning into lean muscle mass. So to loose 10 - 15kgs, plan on a minimum of 10 - 15 weeks. There are no shortcuts, unless you want to look like a starved stick. As for Clen, it may not be the best idea right now, maybe closer to contest date.

BTW, if you get the keto diet right, your weight will drop off smoothly over time without the need for hardcore tactics.

k22 wrote: Hi
Im new to clen and just want to ask a few questions ...

Im 20 year old female ... and want to loose about 10-15kgs .... my body fat :22 % and bmi :22
My goal is to take part in competions in the next year .... really want to achieve it

I am on Tim noaks diet (banting) high in fat, low in carbs. I exercise 5 days a week 20-30 minutes cardio and 30-40 minutes strength training/weight training

1. I want to know what clen cycle is the most affective ? 3 weeks on 3 weeks off ? 2 days on 2 days off?

6-8 weeks on then a couple of weeks off

2. Start with 20 mcg rite? When should you increase your dosage?

Yes. Increase dosage when the sides are bearable. Normally 3-5 days.

3. I dont work out weekends do I stil take clen even though I dont go to gym ? Or only use it when I gym ?

Yes every day.

4. Do I take clen before or after a meal ? Before or after gym?

Any time in the morning when you wake up.

5.Im abit concerned about my heart ... my heart rate peaks too 190 sometimes while gyming without clen.... think I shouldnt take it?

You can't do this type of training while on Clen as you will overload your heart.

Any expert advice on how to achieve my goals ? Suggestions? Wil clen work for me and how long til I start seeing results? Any advice about my diet and workout ?

Regarding diet, go and read the diet section. Every thread. Learn as much as you can! Show that you are willing to put in any amount of effort. Ask tons of questions. Post an intelligent diet. Then I will help you.

Thnx

I have to agree with Oupiel.
Clen is not a toy and can be very dangerous, that said I think you have to do a bit more research about it before diving in. Read the beginning of this thread it outlines an awesome cycle and a safe way to use it.

You can do very well with diet alone! And save that clen for the contest to drop that last little bit of fat.

Too be honest ive been on the diet for abit more then a month now , lost 2kg but ive lost more cm .... another reason why im thinking of going on clen .... I feel like im doing something wrong , lately ive been stuck on the same weight ... thnx for everyones advice and help.... will look in to what everyone said ....

Ok, 2kgs in a month is brilliant.

A bit more than what is ideal, but the first bit of weight loss is mostly water weight anyway.
And those centimeters didn't just go away - so clearly you still loosing something and you're changing shape. Hopefully those CM's are in all the right places.

Chillax you are doing fine - remember, more than 1kg per month and you're probably burning hard won muscle.
It's useful to track your Body fat % weekly - then you will know what you are loosing.

How is your training?
Have you been able to maintain the intensity?

Oupiel, 5-1kg a week depending how much fat you have is a safe target per week. 1kg a month and I'd say you eating too much.

Mason Might wrote: Oupiel, 5-1kg a week depending how much fat you have is a safe target per week. 1kg a month and I'd say you eating too much.

You're right, you can drop a lot quicker.
But it takes a toll on training and motivation.
I find I'm a hungry moody bastard craving food and life just isn't fun!
But if you're carrying a lump of lard that's making you feel disgusting, go for it.
Kill it in a month or 3.

Buy the sound of it, this lady is a looong way out from competition.
She's also young and can't have much hard training under her belt.
If she just focuses on getting her diet right and training hard, she'll be looking super hot in no time. Also she has no anabolics to help keep muscle while dieting hard.
And any girl can diet to rake proportions if sufficiently motivated. :sick:
It will play merry hell with her hormones and that gets even uglier.

I think on a keto diet, she should just focus on getting buff, the fat will take care of itself, mostly.
In fact she may find it hard to pack in enough cals to get/stay anabolic on keto.

But many ways to skin a cat,
its making gains on keto that's the black art to me.

Agree completely, I take a different approach though hahaha. I'd drop first and then worry about gains

Oupiel wrote: I think on a keto diet, she should just focus on getting buff, the fat will take care of itself, mostly.
In fact she may find it hard to pack in enough cals to get/stay anabolic on keto.

But many ways to skin a cat,
its making gains on keto that's the black art to me.

I am someone who struggles to eat enough, and while on keto I can get in my daily calories in 20 mins if I wanted to. Getting in 2000 cals where 70% of that is fat is a piece of keto cake!

I know where this comes from, but 1kg of fat a week at most is only if you don't know what you're doing. You gents are too advanced to limit yourselves like this!

To make gains on keto you must understand that you MUST have carbs in your diet to synthesize muscle. So making gains on standard keto is limited to 1-2 kg over a long period if you are lucky. You can try cyclical keto for muscle gains but I find this weak in both fat loss as well as muscle building. There are better ways to do a body recomposition!

Pyroclasm wrote:
I am someone who struggles to eat enough...

kak man, jy kan lekker vreet as jy moet :lol: :lol: :lol:

OK - Now there is soo much of confusion?? :huh:
Please help me understand?

Pyroclasm wrote: I am someone who struggles to eat enough, and while on keto I can get in my daily calories in 20 mins if I wanted to. Getting in 2000 cals where 70% of that is fat is a piece of keto cake! - So this should be enough to build, even without carbs?
(I think I'm still brainwashed/gun shy about chowing so much fat)

I know where this comes from, but 1kg of fat a week at most is only if you don't know what you're doing. You gents are too advanced to limit yourselves like this! - Do you mean dropping faster with anabolics to maintain muscle?

To make gains on keto you must understand that you MUST have carbs in your diet to synthesize muscle. So making gains on standard keto is limited to 1-2 kg over a long period if you are lucky. You can try cyclical keto for muscle gains but I find this weak in both fat loss as well as muscle building. There are better ways to do a body recomposition!- So for gains, toss keto, pack in complex carbs, save Keto for fat loss?

OK - Now there is soo much of confusion??

Oupa wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote:
I am someone who struggles to eat enough...

kak man, jy kan lekker vreet as jy moet :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hahaha All you can eat chicken wings by hooters eet ek by die ton. :lol:

Oupiel wrote: OK - Now there is soo much of confusion?? :huh:
Please help me understand?

Pyroclasm wrote: I am someone who struggles to eat enough, and while on keto I can get in my daily calories in 20 mins if I wanted to. Getting in 2000 cals where 70% of that is fat is a piece of keto cake! - So this should be enough to build, even without carbs?
(I think I'm still brainwashed/gun shy about chowing so much fat)

On your refeed days you should eat a lot more than that.

I know where this comes from, but 1kg of fat a week at most is only if you don't know what you're doing. You gents are too advanced to limit yourselves like this! - Do you mean dropping faster with anabolics to maintain muscle?

I am talking deep ketosis with Clen + Yoh you can look at 2-3kg per week. Can use anabolics to ensure muscle preservation yes, good question.

To make gains on keto you must understand that you MUST have carbs in your diet to synthesize muscle. So making gains on standard keto is limited to 1-2 kg over a long period if you are lucky. You can try cyclical keto for muscle gains but I find this weak in both fat loss as well as muscle building. There are better ways to do a body recomposition!- So for gains, toss keto, pack in complex carbs, save Keto for fat loss?

Exactly!

OK - Now there is soo much of confusion??

Cool Thanks

Pyroclasm wrote: Clen is to be respected at all times and i.m.o is the most dangerous illegal substance to abuse.

Out-dated opinion, or hyperbole to scare users to not to abuse it? Insulin and DNP take the card for most dangerous in my opinion.

@Pyro: Have you ever used Albuterol? I take it your an experienced Clen user. If so what's your opinion on Albuterol? I understand the technical differences, just wondering if you can share an anecdote? I'm a proponent of the stuff, I have nothing against Clenbuterol - it's just down to availability for me. Cheers mate.

Furk wrote:

Pyroclasm wrote: Clen is to be respected at all times and i.m.o is the most dangerous illegal substance to abuse.

Out-dated opinion, or hyperbole to scare users to not to abuse it? Insulin and DNP take the card for most dangerous in my opinion.

The key word there is abuse, meaning you don't know how to use it properly. DNP is kak dangerous even if you know how but Clen will put you in ICU faster. In general people use DNP more or less correctly as noone will tell you to take a stupid dosage. Clen on the other side people take stupid dosages because the quality of their gear is low. But take that stupid dosage with proper Clen and you will have a heart attack.

Furk wrote: @Pyro: Have you ever used Albuterol? I take it your an experienced Clen user. If so what's your opinion on Albuterol? I understand the technical differences, just wondering if you can share an anecdote? I'm a proponent of the stuff, I have nothing against Clenbuterol - it's just down to availability for me. Cheers mate.

I know as much as you can on Albuterol but I haven't used it myself. Reason is Clen works well with me so Albuterol can't offee me anything Clen doesn't. Some people prefer Albuterol to Clen so it's worth trying.

Hi guys,


Just need some math help here... Me and math confuse each other, I have read and searched but still cant find the answer I am looking for. Just want to make a 100% sure...

According to the bottle

Clen - LP
10 drops = 50mcg

Sooo:
5 drops = 25mcg
15 drops 75mcg
20 drops = 100mcg
25 drops = 125mcg

Am I correct? or should I hand my matric cert back? lol

Lol you've done a good job ^