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Pyroclasm wrote: Two Betasleep daily
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Tx!Pyroclasm wrote: Yes
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Klos wrote: Pyro and others,
Been using Betasleep for a while now with Clen.
Do you guys have any links to any literature showing it's effectiveness in upregulating Beta-2 receptors? Read a few forums where it was heavily debated and the general consensus was it does not. Or not very well. Thoughts?
Secondly, I picked up on some older posts here that other OTCs contain Ketotifen but it seems they've been discontinued?
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Klos wrote: Pyro and others,
Been using Betasleep for a while now with Clen.
Do you guys have any links to any literature showing it's effectiveness in upregulating Beta-2 receptors? Read a few forums where it was heavily debated and the general consensus was it does not. Or not very well. Thoughts?
Secondly, I picked up on some older posts here that other OTCs contain Ketotifen but it seems they've been discontinued?
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Klos wrote: Pyro and others,
Been using Betasleep for a while now with Clen.
Do you guys have any links to any literature showing it's effectiveness in upregulating Beta-2 receptors? Read a few forums where it was heavily debated and the general consensus was it does not. Or not very well. Thoughts?
Secondly, I picked up on some older posts here that other OTCs contain Ketotifen but it seems they've been discontinued?
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PraetorivsXII wrote: I've been Clen for about a week now, the side effects are quite heavy for me at a low dosage of 40mcg a day, will be switching to ECA next week. Anti-catabolic effects are amazing but still would say the side effects are a bit much... Headaches, shivering hands, muscle cramps everywhere and not to mention your heart pulsating away 24/7.
I've heard some guys taking two a day (80mcg) and then skipping a day or two?? Also would you say supplementing with Taurine will help control your heart's rhythm?
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PsyCLown wrote: I was able to acquire some Adco-Zetofen last year when I was giving clen a try. It was not easy but the hospital pharmacies are able to place a special order for you.
The clen did tire me out in the gym though, soo much effort to do things. Endurance was horrible.
Remember that everyone is different and reacts differently to various substances. So what might work for you, does not mean it will work for someone else. Give it all a go and let us know, I would be very interested to see what your finding are.
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Lucky bugger.Klos wrote:
PsyCLown wrote: I was able to acquire some Adco-Zetofen last year when I was giving clen a try. It was not easy but the hospital pharmacies are able to place a special order for you.
The clen did tire me out in the gym though, soo much effort to do things. Endurance was horrible.
Remember that everyone is different and reacts differently to various substances. So what might work for you, does not mean it will work for someone else. Give it all a go and let us know, I would be very interested to see what your finding are.
Found Adco-Zetofen at the first Dischem I walked in today. R105 for a 200ml bottle. That gives 40mg of Ketotifen. Enough for about 15 days.
Will try it from tonight on instead of the Betasleep.
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