00pump's Primo, Testocyp and Tbol Cycle..

Solid diet and ground work Ron. (must be a lot of meal prepping) Just wondering about Pre-workouts supps before Pre-workout meal.

Oh and props for having another swimmer on the board!

Furk wrote: Oh and props for having another swimmer on the board!

Make that two awesome form of cardio

Shot Furk! love the water bru! but love the weights just as much! can't really compare i guess.

RonTheSaveg wrote: Shot Furk! love the water bru! but love the weights just as much! can't really compare i guess.

Can I derail and ask if you have a specific swim routine?

In the past I did HIIT swimming, insane muscle pump and fatloss. 50m freestyle sprint followed by 50m sloooow breaststroke. Always take creatine pre swimming lol.

Trying to regain my swimming fitness at the moment.

You seem to have everything on track. At the moment there isn't much advice I can give you, however if you keep this thread active all the experienced guys will be able to chip in.

Your diet might change up a bit during the cycle depending upon how you respond. With your bodyfat relatively low I believe it will be much easier to make small tweaks to keep your goal on track.

I would try get your bodyfat down to about 10 percent as that is where you will see the magic on this cycle. I don't foresee that taking to long. Sweet

Nice thread, I'm on a similar cycle: Test E, Masteron and kicker was Pro Alphadrol (Google Pheraplex)... Was considering primo instead of mast and TBol instead of the Pheraplex so I'm interested to see how it works for you... Good luck!

Furk wrote:
Trying to regain my swimming fitness at the moment.

Yeah bru, you hit the nail right on the head right here... ^^^^ swimming is another discipline on its own! and being swimming fit is VERY different to any other kind of fitness! guys won't truly understand it unless they have actually tried it. Most freaking insane pumps and just such an all rounder! I bomb down 20g of Arginine and L-Carnitine before my swim and then sip on Crtagen and Virtargo during. I feel insane afterwards. The pump I get is what pulls me back into that water every time! :lol:

At the moment i do a warm up [freesyle] 300m and then i do a 1km - [freestyle] at a moderate pace. then I'll do 50m Sprints 50m where i push so hard i literally am hating life :lol: :lol: and then 50m slow and i do 3 sets of those. and that takes me around 45 - 55min depending on how hard i push myself.

I just generally mix shit up hey and the sprints literally kill me - i wanna actually die. if i'm a little tired ill just do 300m warm up and 1km moderate and then 300m cool down.

I also use the boi [sorry not sure of the correct spelling for that :silly:] between my legs, hand flippers and sometimes feet flippers - creates such good resistance.

I burn a lot of calories when i swim so i try keep it to 3 - 4 times a week else i loose too much mass.

00pump wrote: You seem to have everything on track. At the moment there isn't much advice I can give you, however if you keep this thread active all the experienced guys will be able to chip in.

Your diet might change up a bit during the cycle depending upon how you respond. With your bodyfat relatively low I believe it will be much easier to make small tweaks to keep your goal on track.

I would try get your bodyfat down to about 10 percent as that is where you will see the magic on this cycle. I don't foresee that taking to long. Sweet

I hope I have it all covered bru! :blink: thanks so much for your input and comments. i'll put in some carb cycle days before the cycle starts. i think i could manage 10%! not sure what i'm at now though, maybe i'm at 12% like MA said.. not more and i don't think less!

Awesome stuff Ron. +1

00pump.. can I ask you what the injection protocol is for this cycle? i'm just thinking 800mg of primo and 250mg of test in one shot is 5ml's in one injection. that's too much to inject into one area right? and especially if you gonna inject into your delts. :woohoo:

So i'm thinking to inject 200mg primo and 250 test = 2ml, into my delt and then 600mg = 3ml, into my gluts every Monday [alternating sides every week] ? or can I inject 5ml into my glut in one single shot?

Sorry if this is a stupid question > just seems that 5ml is a little bit much, but I may be wrong.

Hey bro. Good question..

Firstly just be careful of anxiety over 600mg for starters.

Secondly the shot does hurt a bit so the mix with cyp I find helps.. I have in my early years or gear used 10ml plunges and was 'ok'. Yes you can inject 5ml, I'm not sure on how others handle the shots.. it you careful when you pin and don't move the needle and you go nice and deep you pretty much good to go by the next week, so it you rotating you will defiantly be recovered by the second week, that is unless you irritate the area then you need to maybe look at waiting a 3rd week and can then shoot delts. I personally have no problem even shooting 5ml into my delts

Perfect! thanks so much for the reply Bru! Clears that up for me. i'll jab it all in one shot in my glut and see how i go. I just remember someone saying once that the max was 4ml per shot, per site.

PS.. I'm gonna have some blood work done next week before I start the cycle. I am sure I'm all good to go, just wanna be safe. I will post the results as soon as I have them.

Maybe the max was 4ml that he was comfortable injecting. Mayne 5ml is painful for you, I can't say.. I do know that if you do a nice jab, slow steady flow out, don't move the needle and if you feel discomfort go buy those bean bag things you put in the micro and put it over the area a few times a day..

Dammit Ron, you're a swimming beast! My next goal is to do your routine!

Dude if carry on swimming on cycle you're going to have godlike proportions.

Following closely!