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First warning.

So looking over the beginner bulking cycle HCG is added into the PCT and not during the cycle.
I would like to know why.

From my research everyone does HCG during their cycle, both on other forums and this one itself. I also found some information that directly conflicts with the beginner bulking cycle stating that 'We want to bring our natural HPTA back to life' and that 'hCG is suppressive'.

Source: forums.steroid.com/anabolic-steroids-que...-hcg-injections.html

However you all know more than me so I'm sure there's a reason for the HCG to be during PCT.

Thank you.

We promote HCG during cycle actually to prevent testicular atrophy. For years now we have needed to update our PCT protocols to reflect the same.

Pyroclasm wrote: We promote HCG during cycle actually to prevent testicular atrophy. For years now we have needed to update our PCT protocols to reflect the same.

Thanks Pyro, I appreciate the answer

Maybe just to add to this, what blood tests should be done before and after a cycle?

Total Test
Free Test
LH
SHBG
FSH
Estrogen
Prolactin. (when using ;Deca, Tren)
Estradiol
Progesterone
Vitamin D, thyroid function (TSH & Total T4)
Complete Blood Count (CBC)
Electroyltes/Liver function test (E/LFT)
Total Cholesterol (including HDL and LDL)
Prostate (PSA)
Cortisol

Bloody hell you got money like honey HEY! See below..

Demolish wrote: Maybe just to add to this, what blood tests should be done before and after a cycle?

Total Test Choose one of the Test tests
Free Test I would choose this one
LH Yes
SHBG No
FSH Yes
Estrogen Yes
Prolactin. (when using ;Deca, Tren) Yes
Estradiol Yes
Progesterone Yes
Vitamin D, thyroid function (TSH & Total T4) No, unless you used T3
Complete Blood Count (CBC) No
Electroyltes/Liver function test (E/LFT) Yes
Total Cholesterol (including HDL and LDL) If you are nervous
Prostate (PSA) No
Cortisol No

Hahaha i never use my medical aid for anything so might as well use it for this

What do I tell my docter if he asks why do I want all of these checked? The last time I asked a docter he told me straight up if you test for all of this you obviously want to use steroids or have used...?

I would imagine you have a right to test your own body without an interrogation? I'm not speaking from experience though. I've been irresponsible in this manner.... yet to have bloods done. :shame:

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my Doc was chilled, ive always been honest with her. Just tell your doc you want to check all the stuff, if he/she is being a doos about it i would find another Doc. Their job is to help you not lecture you

Rooi Bul 86 wrote: What do I tell my docter if he asks why do I want all of these checked? The last time I asked a docter he told me straight up if you test for all of this you obviously want to use steroids or have used...?

The correct answer is yes.

No problem if he asks, if it's after a cycle say you have in the past and would like to know where you stand.

What's the best way to ask a company to start stocking an item?

Interested in Growth Hormone MK677 and LGD-4033.

DruOmedra wrote: What's the best way to ask a company to start stocking an item?

Interested in Growth Hormone MK677 and LGD-4033.

You're probably using the wrong company if you have to ask.

Heh, fair enough - though I'm sure they'll stock it soon if they just got RAD 140 recently, but if they do though...

Yo guys, does anyone know where to get a micro scale to measure in mg?

I need to split my aromasin capsules adequately and I'm scared of crashing my estro.

No man why would 2mg Aromasin here or there make a difference?

Pyroclasm wrote: No man why would 2mg Aromasin here or there make a difference?

Well thus far the recommended dosage has been 12.5mg, so if I take 20 that's a fair amount more. Ofc I could add one day extra in between dosages.

But I see no harm in doing what I would like to.

Take 20mg EOD, works well

Thank you Optron mate.

Yo guys, wanted to ask some questions regarding the 19-nor compounds, but I didn't want to create a new thread.

From what I've researched Deca and Tren shut you down pretty hard, harder than just Test. In your personal experience, was it harder to recover from a Deca/Tren cycle than a Test + Oral kickstarter cycle?

Does mg/ml in your gear really matter? Well I kinda already know the answer, but I've noticed the industry standard for deca seems to be 100/ml or sometimes 300/ml and PGW's is at 350/ml. From what I've researched it generally doesn't matter, except that a higher mg could be a more painful PIP.

The one I'm eyeing in particular is Deca for my next cycle (planned to be in March or April).

Anyone here have experience using Cabaser or Cabergoline to combat prolactin/progesterone etc. sides? I've even heard that winstrol is effective for prolactin control - which is interesting.

Any thoughts/personal experiences on this are welcome.

Hi Dru,personally I've only used deca and tren with test,never a test only cycle. I found it was harder and took longer to recover from tren than it did from deca. On paper it would be much easier to recover from a test + oral kickstart than any 19nor.

300mg for deca is a minimum dose really and can go over the 600mg mark sometimes (not recommended).

Deca and test is a great cycle,painfree training,smooth injection and great strength and size. You could add HCG from week 3 to help your goons.I can't help you with caber cause everytime I want to cycle I can't get a hold of any,but definitely keep some on hand.

After reading this I'll be sure to plan my next cycle accordingly

i have also never been able to get my hands on caber or prami so didnt use it with my last Deca cycle

is there anything else that can be used for prolactin control?

my understanding - if estrogen is kept in check with proper AI during cycle then prolactin might not be a problem - depening on person to person and your deca dosages?

Jono77 wrote: Hi Dru,personally I've only used deca and tren with test,never a test only cycle. I found it was harder and took longer to recover from tren than it did from deca. On paper it would be much easier to recover from a test + oral kickstart than any 19nor.

300mg for deca is a minimum dose really and can go over the 600mg mark sometimes (not recommended).

Deca and test is a great cycle,painfree training,smooth injection and great strength and size. You could add HCG from week 3 to help your goons.I can't help you with caber cause everytime I want to cycle I can't get a hold of any,but definitely keep some on hand.

Appreciate the response Jono, yeah it seems its easier to get a hold of AI's than things like Caber. But I wanted to get some, in case I need it (better to be prepared in the event that it's necessary). Though you ran cycles without it and had no issue? What dose did you run? I'd be willing to start with a small dose alongside test and then monitor for sides.