DonkieKong's (it's on) Thread

Thank you guys

Oupa would dbol be better choice than naps?

If you can get abombs from LP, use that, its brilliant.

I can yes oupa , should i go with LP naps then

no more than 100mg ED, its potent

Split dose 50mg Morning, 50mg Evening

Hay guys

Can you please help me out a bit

I dont want to do a pct after this current cycle i would like to do 150mg test per week and 500iu HCG per week for 6 weeks agter cycle has ender and then start with cycle nr.3

Can you guys please help me to do this properly

So you want to go on trt?

Yes i do yes as i am not joking when i say im really working to get on stage and i really would love all the help i can get

If you have the cash perhaps team up with a reputable coach who can guide you. Try get some pics up sure some of these guys will be able to tell quiet quickly if the genetics are there and you have a shot or you should be looking at a new career.

Will do

But for now i need some help please with my bridge into trt with current cycle

How do i go onto trt with my current cycle

My plan is to move to a trt dosage after cycle for 6 to 8 weeks and then start cycle nr.3

So would anyone be willing to help me ??

Where you at with your current cycle?, soz for asking but I don't feel like browsing back while driving looking for info

I am in week 7 oupa

Any help oupa?

hey DK

what do you plan on using for the TRT

150mg test enth and hcg

You're not going onto "trt", from what I understand, but want to blast and cruise, right?

That doesn't really mean you can decrease your recovery time, so I'm not sure how you picked 6 weeks off, unless you're on a deadline and need to blast pre comp?

Regardless, you should do regular bloods throughout anyway, but until your values are within acceptable ranges, it would be silly to start blasting again. Generally your cruise time would be the same as the time off = time on + pct rule.

There is no need to bridge into a cruise/trt - 150mg of test is way more than what you would produce during PCT anyway. Just replace the PCT and time off phase with your cruise dose of test.

Also, why HCG during cruise? Do you use it on cycle too? If you're not going to come off, you're just wasting your Zars. Unless you're worried about an empty sack

Hcg on cruise to keep your balls idling... You're still shut down natural T on a cruise.

DK just don't over stimulate your nuts buddy.

And agreed with Eidolon, cruise as per time off.

FIllet wrote: Hcg on cruise to keep your balls idling... You're still shut down natural T on a cruise.

To keep your balls idling until you blast? :dry:

With all due respect, committing to blasting and cruising isn't nearly as simple as that. If you've got any intention of procreating, freeze some sperm. No yokes. And prepare for trt for the rest of your life.

It sounds like a cool option, and sadly many of the kids at my gym are now also b&c experts. I've seen dudes close to suicide after 3 month hero cycles, and good luck when your rbc count hits the roof. At least you'll be lank vascular

Oky i will do that then , time on = time off

Eidolon wrote:

FIllet wrote: Hcg on cruise to keep your balls idling... You're still shut down natural T on a cruise.

To keep your balls idling until you blast? :dry:

With all due respect, committing to blasting and cruising isn't nearly as simple as that. If you've got any intention of procreating, freeze some sperm. No yokes. And prepare for trt for the rest of your life.

It sounds like a cool option, and sadly many of the kids at my gym are now also b&c experts. I've seen dudes close to suicide after 3 month hero cycles, and good luck when your rbc count hits the roof. At least you'll be lank vascular

No debate buddy. You don't use hcg during cruise at all? Intrigued...

FIllet wrote: No debate buddy. You don't use hcg during cruise at all? Intrigued...

No, I don't personally, but can understand why some guys would want to keep the boys going for aesthetic purposes. However, if you're going to use HCG, why do it during cruise? That's when I'm giving my body a break, so I drop everything other than the test, just like you don't run HCG throughout PCT. If you're on permanent HRT rather than a b&c cycle, that's obviously a different story, but that's not what DK is talking about.

Also, long term use of HCG can cause leydig cell desensitisation. And increases E2. I'd love to hear other opinions, but my viewpoint is that if you're going to b&c, you should prepare yourself for the very real possibility that you will require HRT for life.

Eidolon wrote:

FIllet wrote: No debate buddy. You don't use hcg during cruise at all? Intrigued...

No, I don't personally, but can understand why some guys would want to keep the boys going for aesthetic purposes. However, if you're going to use HCG, why do it during cruise? That's when I'm giving my body a break, so I drop everything other than the test, just like you don't run HCG throughout PCT. If you're on permanent HRT rather than a b&c cycle, that's obviously a different story, but that's not what DK is talking about.

Also, long term use of HCG can cause leydig cell desensitisation. And increases E2. I'd love to hear other opinions, but my viewpoint is that if you're going to b&c, you should prepare yourself for the very real possibility that you will require HRT for life.

Aromasin, every man to himself...

Imo, ancilleries more important than steroids!

Hi Oupa. You saying that guys crash and have erection issues by not using cabaser on a 19nor cycle?
Also, at 0.5mg on cabaser, what will the sides be like?

BEN3 wrote: Hi Oupa. You saying that guys crash and have erection issues by not using cabaser on a 19nor cycle?
Also, at 0.5mg on cabaser, what will the sides be like?

I don't know, some have sides on cabaser, others don't. Only sides I have from Cabaser is a increase in libido. As for 19nor steroids, I can assure you you will have issues sometime down the road with depression or ED

Hay guys

Weight at 109kg morning and 110kg at night

Question

Can i do 4 weeks winstrol end of cycle and reduce calories to lean down a bit ??

Or will this waist all the mass i gained on cycle ??