CHAPEL Natural Transformation so far and CYCLE LOG

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12 Mar 2012 19:26 #96895 by Juice
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The jumping is fine, its quite common.

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12 Mar 2012 19:31 #96898 by CHAPEL
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ya that didn't phase me at all. Was more worried about the blood in the syringe afterwards but after a bit of research it appears to be quite common so my mind is at ease.

Gonna go smash shoulders and tris in about 45min, damn keen.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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12 Mar 2012 21:29 #96909 by INCUBUS
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I had my first blood spurt after I pulled out the needle today dunno why. Every inject seems to be slightly different to the last .

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24 Mar 2012 18:06 #98275 by regz
Chapel you made good progress naturally man. Excellent work, and your strength stats are phenomonal for an ex- natty ;) How long in between those original photo's?

I'm sure your cycle is going to give that extra edge you're looking for. Take it steady man and keep posting your progress.

What diet are you following while on?

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24 Mar 2012 20:31 #98281 by CHAPEL
thanks man.. I don't know, three years I think. Cleanish bulk hey, bodyfat hasn't risen significantly at all, still have my abs and solid vascularity, muscle separation has disappeared a lot from water though..

Might as well update now... Gained nearly 5kgs, 3rd week coming to an end. Strength is up nicely as of the last few days.. To be honest I thought it would never kick in. It had kicked in on some muscle groups early on, think I mentioned that. Now all groups are up which is very nice.. Endurance and recovery are phenomenal.

Been catching a lot of flak from people who think I am on steroids, for once they are right.. Looking very bloated in the face and overall 'size/appearance' really has increased which people are noticing, oh well..

Got a bit of gyno that I am very annoyed about, was taking letro and started nolva as well.. Was on 6-7 drops of letro and antibiotics earlier this week and my weight and appetite literally plummeted, felt like shit. Stopped both for 2-3 days and I shit you not I rebounded about 2.5 kgs straight away, but the headaches I spoke of in the first few days of my cycle returned with the lack of letro.. So letro really does kill the gains and make you feel like ass.. was so pap..

Its hard to explain how my temperament has been, I am very calm for some reason which people have noticed. Aggression isn't an issue which for me is weird as I am naturally aggressive. Irritability however, is high up there which is the dangerous one as it leads to losing my temper way faster. Went out with my friends the other night and did feel like I would probably lose my head before the night was out so ended up cruising home very early..

Apart from that can't think of anything, will take some photos soon.

oh and arms growth has been great, loving it. Only down side is legs day, my back pump is so bad I am literally crippled.. And before you say man up, this is literally top 5 most painful things I have been through.. not fun..

Good stuff..

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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25 Mar 2012 18:28 #98317 by regz
shot Chapel. What does your diet look like? Really keen to see how it's changed since before you started and how many calories you taking in?

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26 Mar 2012 09:40 #98358 by CHAPEL
I am on 3600-3700 calories now mostly clean, haha.. doing a 40/40/20 calorie split, well basically that, I think protein is a little higher than carbs.. lots and lots of sweet potato and oats making up my staple hahaha

My diet when I started was like everyone else, shit. I have only ever dieted properly for cutting, and then all my bulks have been a 'rough idea' see food bulk to be honest, that's pure laziness though.. I am doing it properly now though, well I think so..


Weighed in at 92.8 this morning, started at 87.4, but I did eat a massive amount of carbs yesterday.. so 5.4kgs up-ish.. So I am happy with that.. Will see how gym treats me today though with all the letro in my system.. Oh and week 4, so shit should start kicking in now, pretty excited about that..

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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26 Mar 2012 09:52 #98359 by MikeM1
Good stuff.. Watching your progress. Do you think using adex(think its adex) instead of letro won't make you feel as kak?

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26 Mar 2012 09:56 #98360 by CHAPEL
from what I have always read letro is a lot harsher than adex, so probably. Letro really does blow in my opinion, 5drops and up gives me a headache the size of Australia.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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26 Mar 2012 10:54 #98361 by MikeM1
Also more expensive but may be worth it?

You say your a student, I study part time, how is all of this affecting you study wise?

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26 Mar 2012 11:03 #98363 by Thunderbeast
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last time i was on anything... all i wanted to to was eat, sleep and hump... was really distracted... dont know if it affects anybody else in a simmilar manner.

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26 Mar 2012 16:05 #98383 by CHAPEL
not gonna lie, varsity hasn't been my no.1 priority since I started, but I am quite a hard worker so it hasn't really ruined my concentration too much..

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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28 Mar 2012 14:38 #98656 by CHAPEL
K so some pics.. Ya I have been called pregnant, fat, tortoise shell, beer boep everything today because of this picture so shut it.. Was straight after 600gr of food and the last meal of the day :sick: abs are still there though! sort of haha.. Chest as you can see, still shit. Need to get that up and will be trying something new tomorrow that I got advise on.



K and another lat spread, less definition than first one, but I have definitely added size, well from what I can tell, should have taken pics in same place though, whatever..



weight is at 93.8kgs.. Am actually starting to kak my self at how fast I am gaining weight, its probably still water but that's still a kg in 2 days.. Also wondering if/when it will plateau.. For my gyno I have been running nolva and letro, the pain has gone away and some of the puffiness has definitely subsided, thanks admin, pump and DJ for all the advice there..

Cool, till next week then..

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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28 Mar 2012 15:05 #98665 by iMan
champ! Nice kitchen btw :)

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28 Mar 2012 15:06 #98666 by CHAPEL
haha its not mine, but it is nice

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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28 Mar 2012 18:56 #98684 by mike80
What is this new thing you are going to try for your chest if I may ask? Oh, and you look a bit pregnant, think its due to the lighting...:-)

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28 Mar 2012 19:21 #98693 by CHAPEL
yes I know..... Read the part above the picture..

Just going to be doing a different sequence for my workout hey.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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28 Mar 2012 21:28 #98715 by Thunderbeast
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Im not trying to tune you or anything... but it looks like your chest is dominating your back, out of balance... it can usually be seen with the position of the shoulders... yours seems hunched forwards... if that makes sense... I would try a wide grip on my bench bar and heavy flyes with a long deep stretch at the bottom... I will also do heavy flye like streches after a chest session, where you take two heavy dumbells and hold it in a flye fully streched out position for as long as you can... just my thoughts...

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28 Mar 2012 21:43 #98717 by CHAPEL
Oh I agree absolutely, unfortunately its something that seems to plague all the males on my fathers side of the family, same shit posture issue of rounded shoulders. I have tried face pulls for the problem but will focus a little more on the flys, second person to give that advice today so thanks.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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28 Mar 2012 22:02 #98719 by Deadgoat
@thunder if he's front delt is dominant doesn't it make sense to strengthen his rear delts and back instead of doing more chest front delt work?

Sorry guys Apparently it is true, cause its happened to certain people already, so I’m not taking any chances !!
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28 Mar 2012 22:06 #98721 by CHAPEL
the muscles for the chest are 'shortened' by constant rounded shoulders which brings the anterior delt further forward.. By stretching them out it becomes easier to correct your posture and take anterior delt out of pressing movements as your shoulders are no longer pulled forward.

If that is what TB is saying then him and I are on the same page.. I have been given the advice before, I am just useless at using it..

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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28 Mar 2012 22:08 #98722 by CHAPEL
so basically you kill two birds with one stone, chest exercises become more focussed on the pectorals and posture is corrected..

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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28 Mar 2012 22:26 #98728 by Deadgoat
Never knew that thought only way to fix posture was to balance out front delt dominance by bring up rear delts

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28 Mar 2012 23:37 #98736 by Thunderbeast
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that is exactly what i am thinking... the facia sheaths of the chest are already shortened...(as he says its genetic)
so im not saying he should focus on chest. im sayning he should incorporate heavy stretch type movements... to elongate the muscle and correct the posture issue. Heavy back work would speed up the process as the back muscles would put tension on the shoulders from the back and pull hus shoulders into position...

chapel, take a look at the streching done for DC training... and then try incorporating FST-7 principles (flye movements, not pressing movements) for chest with the heavy streching of dc style training afterwards...

just take note that something like this is not going to sort out overnight...
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16 Apr 2012 13:21 #100843 by PoisonedPulse
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hows the cycle going bud??

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