Life begins at 40!

  • Nate40
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
15 May 2014 14:36 #168282 by Nate40
Replied by Nate40 on topic Life begins at 40!
@Oupa
@Rhino
@Fillet

Just wanted to add that I see a major difference today in my vascularity and veins visibility, which must be because of the var.
So I reckon despite the bodyfat it is definitely doing something Oupa.
I would be keen to continue with it to be honest, but as always I will do what the forum thinks is best.

Thanks guys,

Nate

Today I will do what I never thought possible!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Oupa
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
15 May 2014 14:39 #168283 by Oupa
Replied by Oupa on topic Life begins at 40!
Then keep going and keep us updated :)
The following user(s) said Thank You: Nate40

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Nate40
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
15 May 2014 14:45 #168284 by Nate40
Replied by Nate40 on topic Life begins at 40!
Thanks Oupa. At 60mg a day?
Not maybe 80 because of my bodyfat?

Today I will do what I never thought possible!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Oupa
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
15 May 2014 14:51 - 15 May 2014 14:52 #168286 by Oupa
Replied by Oupa on topic Life begins at 40!
60mg or 80mg wont make a difference on your appearance when you bulk. The only results you will notice is your liver taking more strain...
Last edit: 15 May 2014 14:52 by Oupa.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Nate40

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Rhino
  • Expert
  • Expert
More
15 May 2014 15:48 #168295 by Rhino
Replied by Rhino on topic Life begins at 40!
As long as you realize those new veins that pop out will disappear once your off cycle if you don't get your body fat down.

Go big or go home...

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Nate40
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
15 May 2014 15:52 #168296 by Nate40
Replied by Nate40 on topic Life begins at 40!
I do yes.
I have really been trying with the cardio bro. Really trying. I promise you that. It just seems its tougher to burn now then it was 20 years ago hey.

Today I will do what I never thought possible!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Rhino
  • Expert
  • Expert
More
15 May 2014 15:54 #168297 by Rhino
Replied by Rhino on topic Life begins at 40!
For sure Bro. I'd just hate you to carry on with it now and then have to drop it for some reason while your cutting on your bridge. That's when you'll really feel the benefits.

Go big or go home...

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Nate40
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
15 May 2014 15:56 #168298 by Nate40
Replied by Nate40 on topic Life begins at 40!
I hear that.
I will carefully note the piss quality over the next few days and keep you updated.
Thanks again.

Today I will do what I never thought possible!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Rhino
  • Expert
  • Expert
More
15 May 2014 15:57 #168299 by Rhino
Replied by Rhino on topic Life begins at 40!
You should be focusing on gaining some meat now and then attack the cardio and drop the cals on your bridge. Face it when you get to pct then your going to have to eat above maintenance to try and hold onto your gains.

Go big or go home...
The following user(s) said Thank You: Nate40

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Nate40
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
15 May 2014 17:00 #168306 by Nate40
Replied by Nate40 on topic Life begins at 40!
Lots to take in. Thanks Rhino.
Do you think taking the Var now is counteracting the bulking caused by the deca and test?

Today I will do what I never thought possible!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Rhino
  • Expert
  • Expert
More
15 May 2014 17:10 #168309 by Rhino
Replied by Rhino on topic Life begins at 40!
No not at all, it's just more beneficial at a lower body fat.

Go big or go home...
The following user(s) said Thank You: Nate40

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Nate40
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
15 May 2014 17:11 #168310 by Nate40
Replied by Nate40 on topic Life begins at 40!
Thanks Rhino

Today I will do what I never thought possible!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Rhino
  • Expert
  • Expert
More
15 May 2014 17:13 #168311 by Rhino
Replied by Rhino on topic Life begins at 40!
It just why risk 12 weeks on a compound that shouldn't be run for that when your bodyfat is to high to reap the full rewards?
Remember this is your first cycle and being on test and Deca is a shit house of gear for a first cycle alone.

Go big or go home...
The following user(s) said Thank You: Nate40

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Nate40
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
19 May 2014 14:22 #168490 by Nate40
Replied by Nate40 on topic Life begins at 40!
@MuscleAddict or Forum

Regarding Sperm count & quality

Muscle Addict wrote: Number 1 is to stay on HCG while you are on cycle... The problem comes in when we use nandrolone and tren as they are way more suppressive. There is no data on that specifically regarding fertility, but other data shows that you do need a higher dose of HCG for the same testicular response if you're on nandrolone... Then stay on the clomid at a low dose after PCT.

MA I am obviously on nadrolone as you know. Is the 500IU's HCG I am taking during cycle enough?
Because I have noticed three things that are a bit troubling with respect guys:
[1] I have noticed continued shrinkage of the testes
[2] The quantity of sperm has reduced dramatically
[3] I have experienced a bit of testicular sensitivity

Should I be concerned at the moment?

Nate

Today I will do what I never thought possible!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Muscleaddict
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
19 May 2014 15:17 #168496 by Muscleaddict
Replied by Muscleaddict on topic Life begins at 40!

Nate40 wrote: @MuscleAddict or Forum

Regarding Sperm count & quality

Muscle Addict wrote: Number 1 is to stay on HCG while you are on cycle... The problem comes in when we use nandrolone and tren as they are way more suppressive. There is no data on that specifically regarding fertility, but other data shows that you do need a higher dose of HCG for the same testicular response if you're on nandrolone... Then stay on the clomid at a low dose after PCT.

MA I am obviously on nadrolone as you know. Is the 500IU's HCG I am taking during cycle enough?
Because I have noticed three things that are a bit troubling with respect guys:
[1] I have noticed continued shrinkage of the testes
[2] The quantity of sperm has reduced dramatically
[3] I have experienced a bit of testicular sensitivity

Should I be concerned at the moment?

Nate


Are you doing 250IU twice a week? Unless you are using pharmaceutical grade you don't know what the quality of your HCG is. It is always possible that you aren't getting in 500IU a week.

You could try upping the dose but I don't like doing that unnecessarily because HCG raises estrogen levels and causes acne. AI's are not very effective at reducing intratesticular aromatase (estrogen elevation produced in the testes because of HCG) so side effects like gyno are harder to control. So try 750IU a week split in 2 shots. Test levels peak from HCG after 4 days so 2 shots is fine.

You can't see sperm in your seminal fluid. If you have a vasectomy your semen will look the same and quantity as well. But a reduction in semen quantity is related to lower intratesticular/endogenous testosterone because this signals the prostate and cowpers glands to produce seminal fluids. More HCG should help this.

Testicular sensitivity is normal.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Nate40

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Nate40
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
19 May 2014 15:46 #168501 by Nate40
Replied by Nate40 on topic Life begins at 40!
Hi MA,

Thank you for the awesome explanation. You are an encyclopedia bro. +1 to you.

I am currently doing 250IU's twice a week. My supplier assures me it is a top pharmaceutical grade HCG. I will try raising it to 750 split into 2 as suggested and see if there is a difference.

I am glad to hear the sensitivity is normal.

I think my biggest concern was the lack of quantity of the fluid. It is down to literally a few trickles which is a big concern to me.
I thought at first it might be deca dick but haven't had a problem rising to the occasion.

I have heard that Clomid increases the volume of ejaculate during PCT, and that continued use of clomid after PCT can be considered to further increase volume?

Thanks again MA. Karma to you bro.

Nate

Today I will do what I never thought possible!
The following user(s) said Thank You: Muscleaddict

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Oupa
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
19 May 2014 16:08 #168512 by Oupa
Replied by Oupa on topic Life begins at 40!
Your pink avatar is very hars on my eyes bro :P

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Nate40
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
19 May 2014 17:03 #168527 by Nate40
Replied by Nate40 on topic Life begins at 40!
@Oupa
@Forum

Oupa I have been slowly trying to read through all the diet posts and stickies again. But there is so much.
Any particular area on the site, knowing what I look like, that I should maybe be focusing on from your experience maybe.

Been trying to learn about calorie counting and macros etc, as you know, but it is difficult.
I have added two chicken and brown rice meals to the day and am trying to add egg whites and two yolks to breakfast. But not exactly sure if I am taking in too little or too many calories at this point.

Nate

Today I will do what I never thought possible!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Nate40
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
20 May 2014 17:36 #168649 by Nate40
Replied by Nate40 on topic Life begins at 40!
@MuscleAddict

Hi MA,

Sorry man just following up that question on clomid from my previous post when you get a gap. Thanks my bro.

Also just an update for you: I injected 375IU's of HCG this morning (Or pretty close to that from what I could judge). I hope it makes a difference because the sensitivity is worse today.

Regards,

Nate

Today I will do what I never thought possible!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Muscleaddict
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
20 May 2014 18:16 #168651 by Muscleaddict
Replied by Muscleaddict on topic Life begins at 40!
Clomid won't increase your semen load when on cycle and should only be taken to normalise test levels post cycle or for fertility problems. It's a hectic drug with side effects that makes many guys feel crappy. So any benefit of a slightly bigger cumshot is not worth it.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Nate40

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Oupa
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
20 May 2014 18:24 #168652 by Oupa
Replied by Oupa on topic Life begins at 40!
If you want bigger cumshots drink more fluid and stop slapping the weasel so often. Less masturbation = bigger cumshots.
The following user(s) said Thank You: RonTheSaveg

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • RonTheSaveg
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
20 May 2014 18:33 #168654 by RonTheSaveg
Replied by RonTheSaveg on topic Life begins at 40!

Oupa wrote: If you want bigger cumshots drink more fluid and stop slapping the weasel so often. Less masturbation = bigger cumshots.


Oupa! You flipping rock dude! Always 'cum' in at the perfect time! Thanks for the laugh! :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the Dedicated!! "

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Nate40
  • Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
21 May 2014 08:15 #168686 by Nate40
Replied by Nate40 on topic Life begins at 40!
Lol Oupa.
I don't mind being the butt of the jokes. Or in this case the head...

Today I will do what I never thought possible!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • RonTheSaveg
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
More
21 May 2014 08:26 #168688 by RonTheSaveg
Replied by RonTheSaveg on topic Life begins at 40!
Yeah Nate, what's life if you can't laugh at yourself and make others laugh, hey! Thanks for the entertainment, bro! Thumbs up!
On a serious note, sure your situation will improve. Just give it time! And you know you have the best support here. ;)

"Obsessed is a word the lazy use to describe the Dedicated!! "
The following user(s) said Thank You: Nate40

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Oupa
  • Moderator
  • Moderator
More
21 May 2014 10:01 #168698 by Oupa
Replied by Oupa on topic Life begins at 40!
Nate

Apologies if it came across as rude, but that was an honest remark and not intended to make you look like the forum clown. If you want to shoot like a pornstar, follow the advice given.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Nate40

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Powered by Kunena Forum