Pr0g's planed cycle and log

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09 Jul 2012 21:12 - 10 Jul 2012 11:28 #112316 by p1et

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Week 1-12 Testen300 at 600mg split in two 1mil shots

Week 1-4 D-bol 50mg every day

Week 1- 12 NNP150 at 450mg - 1mil eod

Week 12 - 15 Winstrol 40mg everday

Pct no.2

Stats
Aged 27
75kg
1.74m

I have a few questions and would appreciate some advice.

1. Its adviced to run 250iu per week through the cycle if using deca, is this the same for nnp?

2. The iu still confuse me, the pregnal I can get comes in 5000iu, can someone point me in a direction to understand this unit of measure better?

3. Does one run pregnal through pct? If not any benifit if I do?

4. Any other advise?

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09 Jul 2012 21:23 - 09 Jul 2012 21:24 #112322 by MK

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Some guys like DJ have said that they have run NPP only twice a week, and have seen good results of of it. If it's your first time using a 19-nor maybe just do 300mg per week, so doing 1ml each of Testen and NPP on Mondays and Thursdays for example.

I'd also advidse you to get some Cabaser and run that twice a week. Once again, especially if you haven't run something like Nandro before. And if you're looking for some good lean gains why not throw in some Proviron throughout? I reckon that could work out nicely

Speak to PoisonedPulse, he's on 900mg Testen and I think 450mg NPP. Ask him for some advice and tips and I'm sure he'd be glad to help. All the best Prog.

ADD: Oh and rather do Docs PCT. You won't be sorry bud.

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09 Jul 2012 21:30 #112324 by gorilla

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Caber once a week if needed otherwise dont use it, run provi throughout and have adex on hand. 300mg NPP is enough.

Oh and I would def do pct3

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09 Jul 2012 21:30 #112325 by p1et

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Thanx for the reply mk! Yes I forgot to say I'll look to get cabaser to run with the cycle, still waiting on my supplier to send me another list! The only reason I was looking to do 450mg npp is because I read that's the minimum dosage, I how ever have no experience with 19nor's. This also being the reason I left out the provi, as I did not want to run too many substances at once, I could add it!

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09 Jul 2012 21:37 #112326 by MK

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Not too sure about the minimum dosage but I think at 74kgs you should be fine bud, maybe let someone more experienced advise you on the dosage of the NPP.

Ok yeah definitely get the Cabaser, and the Proviron as it's not hepatoxic so you can run it throughout incl. bridge without damaging your liver. It'll also free up extra Test and improve your gains overall.

I'd also suggest getting Adex for the Test to keep on hand, and I've also read that Nandro should be run 2 weeks SHORTER than Test (ie: 10 weeks NPP & 12 weeks Test) to let both esters clear at the same time as Nandro's half-life is longer than that of Test.

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09 Jul 2012 21:42 - 09 Jul 2012 21:44 #112327 by p1et

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Thanx:) I'll add in the prov and take down the nnp to 10 weeks! Don't know when I'll start with the cycle, might make a baby first:p

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09 Jul 2012 21:52 #112328 by gorilla

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Decanoate ester is longer than cyp or ent, but NPP is phenylprop and the halflife is 4 days.

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09 Jul 2012 22:23 #112330 by p1et

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Yeah I just wanted to say, testen ester is longer than that of nnp, so I could run both for 12weeks

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31 Oct 2012 21:13 #126977 by p1et

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Decided that I'm jumping the gun with the deca so I'll be doing the following cycle-

14week cycle
640mg super test per week (m,w,f protocol )
50mg Dbol front load first 4 weeks
40mg proviron up to pct
Pregnal (not sure about dosing protocol)

Pct no.2

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01 Nov 2012 13:05 - 01 Nov 2012 13:10 #127037 by p1et

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Ok so the hcg/pregnal is mixed with 5ml bac water right? My question- I see some say it can only be stored up to 60days? Now if one runs this throughout a 14 week cycle it meens that you will lose alot due to the shelf life? Or can one mix like only half at a time? Depending on your dosing.

Another question is why start the hcg at the start of the cycle and not maybe more to the end of it- effectively also decreasing the time suppressed?

Seeing that one can inject oil base with water based can you administer the hcg together with a test shot?

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01 Nov 2012 13:09 #127041 by CHAPEL

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Why not frontload with something else, you've done dbol before haven't you?

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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01 Nov 2012 13:13 #127042 by p1et

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CHAPEL wrote: Why not frontload with something else, you've done dbol before haven't you?

I have but like at 20mg a day:p ha ha what else would you suggest?

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01 Nov 2012 13:30 #127044 by manery

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I would front load with prop.

"There is no reason to have a plan B because it distracts from plan A" - Phil heath

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06 Nov 2012 21:07 #127529 by p1et

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Ok with my first real cycle comming up soon I decided to follow suit and put up some photos to get some input-

This was before

And this is current "leanish" natural bulk

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MK
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06 Nov 2012 21:45 #127536 by MK

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Awesome transformation there Progressive, your legs are looking great.

Are you still planning on running NPP and Testen?

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06 Nov 2012 21:49 #127539 by p1et

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Thanx man, no I realized that I was jumping the gun with the npp. So I decided on a super test/ prov with dbol frontload and winny bridge.

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MK
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06 Nov 2012 21:52 #127541 by MK

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Clever thinking, sounds good. I'm sure you're gonna be very happy with the results.

I don't know if you've consider this at all yet, but if I were you I'd split the Supertest dose into 3 shots per week (M-W-F). Should further minimise any sides which will tamper with your gains amongst more serious issues. I'm not saying it has to be done that way, I'm just saying consider it

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06 Nov 2012 21:54 #127542 by p1et

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That was the protocol I decided on:)

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06 Nov 2012 21:54 #127543 by GregB1

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Well done bud, it's a huge difference . How long in total did it take?

With hard work and dedication you can achieve anything!

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06 Nov 2012 22:05 - 06 Nov 2012 22:06 #127545 by p1et

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Thanx hey. That was probably just more than a year ago greg, I did a test only cycle with no diet after the before pics without pct. Ended up loosing all gains and reverting back to the same old crappy physique.

Lucky for me i found this here forum:)

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26 Nov 2012 18:49 #129052 by p1et

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Finally managed to order my gear, hopefully getting it tomorrow otherwise next week.

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29 Nov 2012 06:56 #129299 by p1et

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Need some advice on which liver support to use on cycle, seen some posts stating that milk thristle hinders gains? Any advice would be appreciated.

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29 Nov 2012 08:09 - 29 Nov 2012 08:10 #129302 by GregB1

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Liv 52. Also cipla makes liver detox capsules that contains no milk thistle.

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29 Nov 2012 08:12 #129303 by mike123

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Essential on cycle...milk thistle during PCT

Cycle is coming on nice I see.

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29 Nov 2012 08:18 #129304 by mike123

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Ok that is natural ..not on cycle yet ? but a good base to start with..goodluck

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