Fillets cruise/HGH to blast for cycle 5

Morning ladies/ gents

Stats, again:
35yrs
198cm
127 kg
Visible abs, perhaps 12% BF

Cycle history:
1 Test cyp, bridge winnie and prop, full pct

2 Test cyp and NPP, bridge winnie and prop, full pct

3 Test cyp and deca, bridge winnie and prop, full pct

4 Test en and Tren en, no bridge, first time cruise for 3 months on Omnadren (got 10 boxes for free), 4 blend testosterone at 250mg per week - planning on running this for three to four month before next blast, using Keifei HGH at 5iu's per day with it and HCG at 500 iu per week, HCG is 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off

The plan but undecided yet is to continue HGH along with next blast (Cycle 5) of short esters. Test prop and Tren Ace?

Whats the verdict peeps, any comments welcome.

Thanks

Isn't 250mg to high for a cruise Bud. I'd have bloods done after a while and see how close to natural levels you are.
I've found that even 150mg per week has my levels over the high natural range.

150mg per week for his size should be the sweet spot, 250mg test pw cruise is high.

Blast with Anaps 5 weeks, tren, prop, masteron. After 4 weeks add another potent oral in the mix like sdrol for a few weeks. Add IGF1-LR3 @ 100mcg about 1 hour after training and HGH 5iu before bed. Eat like a horse.

We can discuss this in detail once you get to the point.

Your 'test receptors' are gonna desensitize and eventually you will get close to the same effect as 150mg except more sides.

Let's meet halfway and make it 200mg/week Whatever cruising dose you go for get a full blood count (CBC) test after 3 months to see how your haemoglobin responds to that dose. You are planning on blasting and cruising long term so it's very important to know.

Shot Fillet glad you started this thread im keen to learn from the guys how to do this right and as sensible as possible.

Instead of 250mg test is 150mg test and 100mg primo a good alternative or 100mg of each?

100mg of primo will do nothing / nothing / nothing. Being on TRT is for an increase in testosterone.. not to stack anabolics, specially because it will do nothing.

Rhino, appreciate your input as you have been doing this currently
Oups, love the suggestions as always. Thanks - keep them coming.
Pyro, I am listening brother
MA, I will do as you said and drop to 200mg weekly, reason body weight.
Lobo, I will continue this thread, I do remember you asking for it.
Pump, your insight is always welcome

Thanks fellows, I will maintain thread and let you know how it goes. At least I don't have to feel the pain of PCT - for now.

Just a quick one gents my tummy is sick of the HGH, seriously at two pins a day. Can I start IM shots? Maybe not as effective as SQ?

Fillet, I'm no expert, but I've been running peptides - Ipam, Cjc, HGH, IGF, Melanotan etc - on and off for about 2 years now, have only ever done IM, mostly with a 24 gauge 1 inch needle. Have had good results.

mack wrote: Fillet, I'm no expert, but I've been running peptides - Ipam, Cjc, HGH, IGF, Melanotan etc - on and off for about 2 years now, have only ever done IM, mostly with a 24 gauge 1 inch needle. Have had good results.

Thanks Big Guy, That's what I will do.

Melanotan, just the name makes me feel like a lobster all over again - body does not tolerate it well.

Hello Fillet why do you run HCG four weeks on and then off again, is this to ensure your "ley dig cells" don't get desensitised. I am also on trt doses and uses 250 IU twice a week.

Subcutaneous HGH has a slightly higher bioavailabiliy than IM shots. 75% vs 63%. With HCG it's the other way around.

Muscleaddict wrote: Subcutaneous HGH has a slightly higher bioavailabiliy than IM shots. 75% vs 63%. With HCG it's the other way around.

So it would be better to have HCG done IM? Although a bit tricky to dose... I am now wondering whether the insulin needles will go through the fat in my ass for my HCG shots

I guess nothing to lose though? Worst case it ends up in my fat and is a SubQ injection as opposed to IM?

Triton wrote: Hello Fillet why do you run HCG four weeks on and then off again, is this to ensure your "ley dig cells" don't get desensitised. I am also on trt doses and uses 250 IU twice a week.

Hey bud, its my own thing that's why I posted it and could be wrong - then someone could correct me.

HCG maintains semen parameters, preserves fertility whilst on TRT. My fear is to overstimulate my testicles, it will also raise estrogen levels and cause leydig desensitization. Hence the 4 weeks on and 4 off. Mods, please correct me if wrong. And I don't mind being wrong and corrected... Cheers

Muscleaddict wrote: Subcutaneous HGH has a slightly higher bioavailabiliy than IM shots. 75% vs 63%. With HCG it's the other way around.

You know your stuff boet. Not too much difference though so I can give my tummy a short break and go back to sub q. +1

@ Psy

Try Quads for IM HCG if you using the Skin Pins...

Hi Gents, so with the GH I am experiencing high levels of water retention in my hands and wrists mostly - cant even get my watch on. I know this to be a side effect but didn't think it could be so hectic. Should I use Cytomel T3 to combat or just wait a bit to see if it subsides? I have to date used 200iu's so far. Don't wish to get to the stage whereby I get carpel tunnel syndrome. My dose is 5iu's daily split in two.

What HGH are you using Fillet? Use the highest dose that you can handle the side effects on. Don't take cytomel or something else.

Muscleaddict wrote: What HGH are you using Fillet? Use the highest dose that you can handle the side effects on. Don't take cytomel or something else.

Keifei my brother. I can handle it so I will use it.
Okay, I wont use Cytomel

Good stuff. 5iu is definitely enough.

Fillet besides the water how have the results been on the GH, do you feel any different since starting it?

lobo wrote: Fillet besides the water how have the results been on the GH, do you feel any different since starting it?

In the short time I have been on, by short time I mean for Gh use:
Energy is up
I am by far more mentally alert
Strength, strangely - I am feeling strong and lifting more.

Conclusion thus far, I like GH, probably helps that I am cruising on some test but its a great combination.

So for the first time in five years I get the dreaded back acne, nowhere else, just from shoulders down midway. Its been a month now, tried several products and no change.

Reacutane/ the generic? Don't want to waste months on products that don't work...

Yes it's a kak one. Acne caused by hormonal changes is hard to get rid of. The generic Oratane is fine.