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23 Oct 2011 23:39 #79290 by CHAPEL
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Alright so as the title suggests, just something I have been thinking of doing for a while but haven't had the time for.

I am sure it will be helpful and will answer a few of the supplement related questions we get on here. Please feel free to add on to it using the same format for reviews.

PLEASE NOTE: ALL REVIEWS ARE SUBJECT TO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE SO PLEASE, DO NOT COME WITH KAK.

Pre Workouts:

Name: NO Shotgun

Company: VPX

Flavour: Grape

Price: R599. Piss off.

Taste: 8/10, I really enjoyed the taste.

Pump: 6/10, didn't really do much for me in this dept.

Focus: 9/10 felt like I literally had tunnel vision, driving on this stuff is a fun experience haha.

Energy: 8/10 it gives a very good kick in the gym.

Strength: 7/10 worked quite well, but nothing too ridiculous.

Other notes: It did not work well with my stomach, which is completely counter productive when doing heavy deads or squats :blink:

Over all: 7.5/10 (due to stomach for me)



Name: Bloodrush

Company: Badboy

Flavour: Orange <<<disgusting.

Price: R350, not worth it.

Taste: 4/10, orange was truly repulsive.

Pump: 9/10, literally lived up to its name, pumped my arms up so hard one day i had to stop training for a bit.

Focus: 1/10 did fok all.

Energy: 5/10. Even though this stuff gave me insane energy, it was in the wrong department, all i wanted to bloody do was run! Not lift weights. Hence the 5/10.

Strength: 7/10 once again sufficient but nothing to write home about.

Other notes: Really not the best out there, for MMA it could be nice, I saved it as it wasn't the best for weights, bought some Jack3d and used it for MMA. Worked well.

Over all: 5/10, for weight lifting.



Name: Jack3d

Company: USP

Flavour: lemon and lime

Price: R300, worth every cent.

Taste: 8/10 i like the taste, always looked forward to it. Very similar to shotgun for come reason?

Pump: 7/10 don't get much of a pump off jack3d. Probably due to the ingredients.

Focus: 10/10. Seriously don't talk to me when I am on jack3d. I will just ignore you. Period.

Energy: 10/10. I can rip through a whole weights session and feel nothing.

Strength: 9/10. Best strength product i have ever used.

Other notes: Near damn perfection.

Overall: 9/10. Only problem is a build up in tolerance to serving size.



Name: Ganic-f Insane

Company: Supplements Sa

Flavour: Black Current Grape

Price: R260, very good value for money.

Taste: -789/10. Fkucing terrible.

Pump: 10/10. Insane pumps every work out with this stuff. Loved it.

Focus: 8/10. I enjoyed the drive it gave me, very different feel to most other pwo's

Energy: 8/10. Packed with caffeine. Got me amped to hit the gym every time without fail.

Strength: 9/10. Jack3d and Ganic both bump my strength up greatly. Love them both.

Other notes: I do not mind ganics taste too much. My problem with ganic is the crash. It is monumental.

Overall: 8/10 despite the crash and taste this is a great product.



Name: NO Rage

Company: SPS

Flavour: Bubblegum

Price: R329 with a free tshirt.

Taste: 7/10. Pleasant, not too over powering.

Pump: 6/10. Occasional pumps which was annoying.

Focus: 8/10. Gave me nice focus in the gym, one of those "dont talk to me" types which is a good sign.

Energy: 7/10. I could last a full session but would start to fatigue slightly to the end.

Strength: 7/10. Not much to write home about but reasonable.

Other notes: Nice mid range product, not too bad but nothing to blow your mind.

Overall: 7/10.

(No pic unfortunately. Its in my car and i am lazy)

I have used Jugganaut, NO explode and wired. But those were a while ago so cannot recall enough about them to do good reviews. Anyone else with experience please feel free to chime in.

OTC Fat burners:

Name: Ripped Hard core

Company: Muscle Science

Price: R300-400 I think, was a rip off.

Fat Burning: 6/10. Gives a nice little buzz if taken properly, didn't burn too much fat though. Ended up using it for a prewo kick.

Energy: 7/10. Loaded with caffeine so some of the crashes come pretty damn hard.

Over all: 6.5/10. As OTC burners go i guess it isn't bad, energy wise is why it takes a 6.5.



Name: CLA

Company: Evox

Fat burning: 6/10. Your diet has to be on par and you need quite a few bottles for it to do anything noticeable and even then it is minimal. In conjunction with a thermogenic it has its place i guess.

Over all: 6/10 (haha not sure what else to say)



PROTEIN:

Name: Anabolic Muscle Builder

Company: SSN

Flavour: Cookies and Cream

Price: R350 for 4kgs

Taste: 8/10. Great flavour.

Content: 7/10. typical mass gainer, shitty carbs but its what you buy it for i guess.

Efficiency: 8/10. Really helps with whacking in a few extra calories when bulking and struggling to find time to eat.

Over all: 8/10. Great shake if you are on the move a lot imo.



Name: 5XL muscle meal

Company: Evox

Flavour: Vanilla. Do your self a favour, stick to vanilla! :)

Price: R350 for 4kgs

Taste: 8/10. Very nice flavour, either that or chocolate, do not experiment.

Content: 7/10. Once again typical mass gainer but think the protein was a little higher than usual.

Efficiency: 8/10. Once again great for bulking and needing to find a few extra calories. If you put on fat easy, go for this over most of the other mass gainers.

Over all: 8/10. Great for starting out or bulking.



Name: 100% whey protein

Company: Evox

Flavour: Cookies and Cream

Price: R349 for 2kgs

Taste: 8/10. Even though i am a raws kinda guy this stuff tasted very nice.

Content: 10/10. well whey is whey.

Efficency: 10/10. I really love this stuff because, as dumb as it sounds, i can honestly see the difference when i am using it.

Over all: 9/10. If you dont mind flavours and spending that much, great product.



Name: Basic Supplements Concentrate.

Company: Basic Supplements. Go figure.

Flavour: Raw

Price: R295/ 2.5kgs

Taste: 8/10. I like raws so the taste is just fine to me.

Content: 10/10. Whey is whey.

Efficiency: 10/10

Over all: 9/10. Very well priced, company service is sometimes a little funky ;) but very good value for money and no added crap which is always a bonus for those who like to keep it 100% clean.



Name: 100% whey

Company: USN (ya ya..)

Flavour: Choc mint

Price: R350/2kgs

Taste: 4/10. Sies. That's all.

Content: 10/10

Efficiency: 10/10. I know they are hated but it worked just as well as any other whey.

Over all: 7/10 for the KAK taste.

NO PICTURE. Got thrown out haha.

Name: Fast Grow Anabolic

Company: USN

Flavour: Vanilla

Price: R399/4kgs

Taste: 9/10. With milk this stuff is amazing.

Content: 8/10. Though mostly useless the added creatine and test booster is nice to think about. But, shit carbs.

Efficiency: 10/10. IF, and only IF. You are trying to hit some size and aren't shy about the bf%. Personally i love the stuff. Jackrabbit don't hate ;)

NO PICTURE. There is a gremlin in my house that steals these buckets I had three and they are gone.

Name: Whey Concentrate, NB: Australian Batch.

Company: BSSA

Flavour: Raw

Price: R110/kg. AWESOME!

Taste: 8/10. Got a funky flip to it but i still like it.

Content: 10/10. Whey is whey.

Efficiency: 10/10 Well so far so good. Mixes very easily, just don't let it sit for too long or it thickens up something crazy ;)

Over all: 10/10. the reason it gets 10/10 is because of the price. Great price, great product, great packaging as well. Thumbs up Ondier!



CREATINE, GLUTAMINE, BCAAs, VITAMINS, TEST BOOSTERS

Name: Creatine Monohydrate

Company: Evox

Price: R80/200gr

Strength: 8/10. Great bump in strength, nothing compared to when i just use jack3d though.

Water Retention: 7/10. Minimal, but still present.

Results: 8/10. Good for strength and size however it gives me headaches.

Over all: 8/10. Good product.



Name: Ester Creatine V4

Company: Evox

Price: R239/ 120caps.

Strength: 9/10. More noticeable than mono.

Water retention: 10/10. None whatsoever.

Results. 9/10. Great for strength, no headaches or hike in bp, personally love the stuff.



Name: 100% L-Glutamine.

Company: Evox

Price: R89/100gr

Recovery: 8/10. Worked very well at the right dose.

Taste: -235/10. Do not get this on your tongue haha.

Over all: 8/10. Good product little over priced.



Name: BCAAs

Company: SSN

Price: R179/500gr

Taste: ass/10. Slug this stuff.

Efficiency: 10/10. I love this stuff, and yes, you can tell the difference when using with a diet that may compromise muscle mass.

Content: 10/10. All you need from the blend. 2:1:1 ratio.

Over all: 9/10. Just because it tastes like something dead.

NO PIC. Its in my bag, mission.

Name: Multitime Sport.

Company: Vital

Price: Cheap.

Efficiency: 9/10. Works very well, the difference is noticeable actually.

Over all: 9/10. Go figure.



Name: H.O.T

Company: HMT

Price: R350/60 caps

Weight gain: 6/10. It works, just not well.

Strength: 8/10. On par with creatine, please don't be fooled into thinking other wise.

Over all: 2/10. Just cos it actually bull shit at a high price.




Will follow with more. But I am tired and that is a LONG post. Hope it is appreciated and that people add on to it! If we all add something i am sure it can be quite a comprehensive little database for supps :)

Good stuff.

PS: if there are spelling mistakes, forgive me, I am tired.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.
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23 Oct 2011 23:57 #79295 by STUARTF
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Really cool post chapel, nice one bro... +1 to you

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24 Oct 2011 00:18 #79298 by Deadgoat
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Tl;dr



Lol great post bud will post up some of my own reviews tomorrow as well, finally gonna get a chance to try out the NO explode I got on friday

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24 Oct 2011 02:17 #79306 by Thunderbeast
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some of the remarks are KAK funny!!!
deadgoat: should've gotten superpump250! is it NO Explode 2?

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24 Oct 2011 06:58 #79310 by Deadgoat
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Its the original formula, what's the difference? I spent an hour at dischem making my decision (and posing as a consultant :lol:), it was between jack3d, SP, and NO Xplode. Ultimately I thought since you build up a tolerance on all 3 of them just get the biger one to last longer, NO Xplode weighs like 1kg+, easy choice. Originally wanted to get MM, but chapel's got some beef with the only distributor in CT and said he'd slit my throat if I went near that place :(

Sorry guys Apparently it is true, cause its happened to certain people already, so I’m not taking any chances !!
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24 Oct 2011 09:00 #79319 by Thunderbeast
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aag, its just that i've heard that there is a "NEW AND IMPROVED" NO Explode 2 out...somewhere...

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24 Oct 2011 11:14 #79329 by STUARTF
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I've tried NO Rage and was quite impressed, really like the T-shirt and DVD but they don't include that anymore. Now what is the difference between the NO Rage, NO Blast and NO explode?

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24 Oct 2011 11:32 #79331 by CHAPEL
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ya they give you these nice glutamine/dextrose chews.. which are nice post workout.. Rage and Blast are both SPS aren't they? Xplode is BSN.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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24 Oct 2011 11:36 #79332 by CHAPEL
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Deadgoat wrote: chapel's got some beef with the only distributor in CT and said he'd slit my throat if I went near that place :(


Just to clarify.. He sells fake heat, pro hormones to children, and "clomid" at a price that would kill a millionaire. I saw the guy tell a 15 year old to take super anadrol for 8 weeks and to up his protein at the end to keep his gains. He also ups his prices in comparison to EVERY other branch nationwide. Why?? they are all the same company chain. No i won't ever support them. Service is terrible as well. Been in there 3 times. Once he even had to come out from the back where he was with his girlfriend.. Feel free to go there if you want.

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

"You put the devil on the other side and I will come to fight." -Royce Gracie

Its legs day, legs day, gotta get down on legs day.

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24 Oct 2011 11:42 #79334 by bones
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Nice post mate. ;) I'd much rather come here for review then ask the salesman at the stores. Come to think of it, I hate speaking to salesman. When I go there, I mostly know what i want but also like to browse through to see whats new on the shelves and check the pricing, but that is very short lived when I have a salesman trying to convince me otherwise.

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24 Oct 2011 11:49 #79336 by Thunderbeast
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there are many places you can buy muscle marinade in capetown area... M-KEM also sells

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24 Oct 2011 12:29 #79348 by Deadgoat
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@Chapel yeah sounds like a shithole...but they can sell weapons of mass destruction for all I care as long as their stuff is good and cheap :lol:

Thunderbeast wrote: there are many places you can buy muscle marinade in capetown area... M-KEM also sells


Where is this M-KEM and what other places do you know of?

Sorry guys Apparently it is true, cause its happened to certain people already, so I’m not taking any chances !!
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24 Oct 2011 12:54 #79373 by Thunderbeast
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Deadgoat wrote: @Chapel yeah sounds like a shithole...but they can sell weapons of mass destruction for all I care as long as their stuff is good and cheap :lol:

Thunderbeast wrote: there are many places you can buy muscle marinade in capetown area... M-KEM also sells


Where is this M-KEM and what other places do you know of?


M-kem is next to the N1 there by teazers>>(belleville spur)hahaha
stellenbosch nutrition in somersetwest
and a few others I cant think of now... but think M-kem is the closest to you that I know...

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24 Oct 2011 13:00 #79376 by Deadgoat
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Thunderbeast wrote: M-kem is next to the N1 there by teazers>>(belleville spur)hahaha
stellenbosch nutrition in somersetwest
and a few others I cant think of now... but think M-kem is the closest to you that I know...


belville is a bit of a mission and I might not make it past the teazers :whistle: is that stellenbosch nutrition by somerset mall? Thats only a 20 min drive for me

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24 Oct 2011 20:30 #79495 by TestFreak
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@ chapel
great post bud, much appreciated! + 1 (thumbs up)

@thunderbeast
pick n pay sells muscle marinade,around the same price as jack3d
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24 Oct 2011 21:41 #79503 by Thunderbeast
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Deadgoat wrote:

Thunderbeast wrote: M-kem is next to the N1 there by teazers>>(belleville spur)hahaha
stellenbosch nutrition in somersetwest
and a few others I cant think of now... but think M-kem is the closest to you that I know...


belville is a bit of a mission and I might not make it past the teazers :whistle: is that stellenbosch nutrition by somerset mall? Thats only a 20 min drive for me


Yes it is. but stock there is never guarenteed but there is another supplement store nearby....
or look up evolution nutrition... also around there, dont know if they stock it though

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25 Oct 2011 10:09 #79540 by David.biohazard
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@Chapel thanks for this post bud, lank informative. What you testing next? Have some ideas for you, Evox 3dt and a mate of mine told me about black powder which has all the makings of a great pre workout but you can still sleep at night if taken for an evening session...

That is what makes a bodybuilder a true bodybuilder, and that is to be simply.....

PURELY DIFFERENT FROM THE REST


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25 Oct 2011 10:22 #79542 by CHAPEL
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I want to try 3DT and hemo rage next. Just so hard not to go and buy jack3d ;)

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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25 Oct 2011 10:27 #79544 by STUARTF
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CHAPEL wrote: I want to try 3DT and hemo rage next. Just so hard not to go and buy jack3d ;)


Yeah, I know what you mean. I needed a break from MM so went to Dischem and couldn't help but buy Jack. Not liking the Lemon Lime flavour, the Passion Punch is much better but they don't stock it in Fourways (oke said the flavour was discontinued but I think thats bullshit as I saw it at Cresta Dischem).

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25 Oct 2011 10:37 #79549 by dryden
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Lemon Lime is the best Jack3d flavour.

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25 Oct 2011 10:42 #79553 by STUARTF
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Have you tried Passion Punch?

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25 Oct 2011 10:46 #79555 by dryden
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Tried one other flavour a while back. Not my cup of tea. But I like lemon/lime flavour generally. Most ppl hate the green wine gums - I fucken love them.

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25 Oct 2011 11:18 #79568 by STUARTF
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haha, each to there own. For me passion punch.....iz niiiiice!!!*Borat voice*

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25 Oct 2011 11:23 #79569 by CHAPEL
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lol its not discontinued.. What a doos.. I like both to be honest.. But i buy the lemon and lime more because it has more of a kick/placebo effect ha ha..

To you it may look like I just did a push-up... But in fact, I just bench-pressed the world.

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25 Oct 2011 12:24 - 25 Oct 2011 12:25 #79579 by Deadgoat
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TestFreak wrote: @ chapel
great post bud, much appreciated! + 1 (thumbs up)

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pick n pay sells muscle marinade,around the same price as jack3d


Which PnP?

@Tb yeah Chapel told me about evo nut, but its all the way in Strand so screw that

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