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20 Aug 2012 18:58 #118934 by MRfeathers
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Yeah I'm being an idiot by cooking every night. I strarted studying again this semester too. I literally just go to work, then gym, Then cook, then study. By the time I'm done its after 10 and I need my 8 hours sleep. And I train every weekday. I take weekends off. During the week I feel like robocop

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20 Aug 2012 19:00 #118935 by p1et
Got to agree I doubt this will be the last cycle for both of you:p

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20 Aug 2012 19:33 #118937 by manery
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Pyroclasm wrote: I think Manery also started more or less the same time?


Yep :)

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20 Aug 2012 20:15 #118942 by GregB1
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No no no, the late commer will show you all how a first cycles gains is supposed to look like :lol: :silly: :P :)

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20 Aug 2012 22:02 #118964 by Pyroclasm
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GregB1 wrote: No no no, the late commer will show you all how a first cycles gains is supposed to look like :lol: :silly: :P :)


Pppfffffffffffffshhh! Bring it on son we not scared! B)

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03 Sep 2012 21:49 #120760 by Pyroclasm
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Hey Guys just an update on my cycle haven't really done this in a while. Started week 12 of my cycle today. Weighed in at 90.6kg with none of it from a frontload. Due to my operation I have basically been on cycle for a full 6 weeks now and unfortunately I lost an entire week of training in engineering week, so I am happy with my gains so far. Will post pics when I start my bridge, so basically when I am at my fattest. Hehe I noticed my boobies getting itchy here and de so started with Arimidex @1mg EOD just to be sure. I thought it's a bit weird that it would happen this late but hey what you gonna do. The EQ kicked in a while ago (I'd say about week 9) and even with the increased hunger I am still struggling big time with the eating. I mean for me it feels like I am permanently eating and grazing yet I am still missing on average about two meals a day. Thanx for listening and all the best guys!

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04 Sep 2012 00:31 #120780 by Pyroclasm
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Shit so I just realised that I started Arimidex and my cholesterol (7.4) hasn't had close to enough time to get back to normal. Shit now I am stressing my ass off!!! Any advice?! Should I schedule an emergency appointment with my GP? And what will work the best?

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04 Sep 2012 00:43 #120782 by Muscleaddict
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Get some Cho-Less-Sterol from your nearest Pick n Pay pharmacy. It is in my opinion the best over the counter cholesterol supp around. My wife has high cholesterol (hereditary) and it has brought it down more than any other OTC supp that she tried. The prescription meds have nasty side effects. I wouldn't worry too much about cholesterol of 7 for a short period of time.

Ingredients

Inositol hexanicotinate 500 mg (niacin)
Calcium pantothenate 100 mg
Vitamin E 200 IU
Vitamin B6 10 mg
Folic acid 100 mcg
Vitamin B12 100 mcg
Chromium polynicotinate 100 mcg
Garlic extract 100 mg
Guggul extract 100 mg
Phosphatidyl choline 250 mg (lecithin)
Apple pectin 50 mg
Policosanol 20 mg
Beta-Sitosterol 100 mg
Red yeast rice 100 mg
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04 Sep 2012 00:50 #120783 by Pyroclasm
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Bless you MA!! I was so happy when you came online cant explain to you how much I was stressing. Have some karma, have some thank yous, have my GF for a night! Thanx so much bro!!! So you wreckon I shouldn't even get the prescription meds? Is it worth risking a heart attack for? I don't wanna die so young haven't even started with my bucket list. :(

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04 Sep 2012 01:07 #120784 by Muscleaddict
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Pyroclasm wrote: Bless you MA!! I was so happy when you came online cant explain to you how much I was stressing. Have some karma, have some thank yous, have my GF for a night! Thanx so much bro!!! So you wreckon I shouldn't even get the prescription meds? Is it worth risking a heart attack for? I don't wanna die so young haven't even started with my bucket list. :(


Pics of GF? :lol: Just kidding. I would take 3x cho-less-sterol a day and up my salmon oil as well if I was in your shoes. Eat less red meat and more fish and chicken and then test again after a month. 7.4 is not good but not terrible. You aren't going to drop dead of a heart attack. But you don't want it at 7.4 consistantly. That is when problems arise. Cholesterol is a slow killer.
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04 Sep 2012 01:12 #120785 by Pyroclasm
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Won't the Arimidex put that level on like 14? I just know that Arimidex raises cholesterol through the roof.

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04 Sep 2012 01:20 #120786 by Muscleaddict
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It does effect it but it won't be that dramatic at 1mg EOD. Elevated cholesterol takes a long time to do damage. Just check it again in a month after taking the supps and then make a decision then. Right now you are ok.
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04 Sep 2012 01:29 #120787 by Pyroclasm
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Thanx for the reassurance MA now I can try to go to sleep tonight. Maybe a question for you while you are here: How much can Arimidex affect my cholesterol? And does it do this quickly and therefore could be dangerous, or is it slow and manageable?

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04 Sep 2012 11:32 #120812 by Muscleaddict
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Estrogen is very beneficial when it comes to cholesterol. It increases your good HDL cholesterol and lowers your bad LDL so any AI will have an effect on your lipids. Most studies say that adex only has slight negative effect or even a negligible effcet even after a long duration but those people weren't on AAS as well. Blood work on cycle will usually show that adex does raise your cholesterol ratio but to put things in perspective, of all the stuff you are taking on your cycle adex at 0.5mg EOD will have the least negative effect. Tbol, Test E at 600mg/week and Winstrol all would lower your HDL more than adex. Winny being the worst. But by taking cholesterol support supps you can minimise that.
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04 Sep 2012 18:17 #120871 by Bandit
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Some good reading :)

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05 Sep 2012 20:51 - 05 Sep 2012 20:54 #121141 by DBatDBN
And my shopping list grows!

So Winny is kak for liver AND cholesterol, which means buying Liv52 and Cho-less-trol.....

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18 Sep 2012 18:07 #122646 by gorilla
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So any updates??

You said you will be revealing the new THOR some time back, but alas...Im still waiting! :lol:

Lets go!
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25 Sep 2012 15:22 #123452 by GregB1
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Hey bud what you been up to? I see you have become scarce (extinct) :P. How is the cycle going bud?

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25 Sep 2012 21:25 #123491 by Pyroclasm
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@Gorilla: Sorry only replying now bud but big ups for asking. :)

@Greg: Yeah sorry for that my man! I was gonna post pics but then I realized I let myself go a bit over the last two weeks (had me a tiny bit of spiced gold) and now I look like a fatty again. Also DJ is not happy with progress and wants to rework my diet and training routine. My last shot of test is tomorrow and then I start cutting for 30 days when my bridging period starts. Thanx for asking bro!

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25 Sep 2012 21:37 - 25 Sep 2012 21:40 #123496 by GregB1
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Good luck with the bridge bud. ;)


ADD: A tiny bit of spice :ohmy: yea I'm sure it was only a tiny bit. :P

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25 Sep 2012 21:54 #123501 by PoisonedPulse
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how have gains been so far on cycle bro? and good luck for the final stretch B)

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25 Sep 2012 22:38 #123507 by Pyroclasm
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@Greg: Thanx my man! :) Yeah it's like only having one Jagerbomb.. ;) hahaha

@PP: Hey bro thanx for asking. I personally felt things went well. I saw that when I hit gym the entire week with legs I gain 1.7kg-2kgs, and when I miss legs I gain about 1kg-1.2kgs. According to my calculations I have put on about 8kg-9kgs of lean muscle in 8 weeks with no help from a frontload. As you can see I missed legs quite often. ;) hahaha Besides what the figures say I can see/feel muscle EVERYWHERE which is something I have never had and all my friends are talking about how big I am getting. The steroid rumors are running wild! ;) I was super excited to show DJ my progress but the man is not happy with me. Eish I am taking it very personally but it's hard not to when you have sacrificed so much for something and put in a lot of effort. The biggest struggle is the eating and I have gained tremendous amounts of respect for bodybuilders. You can't know how much the eating sucks until you have been there yourself.

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25 Sep 2012 23:24 #123510 by PoisonedPulse
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Nice one bro! That's awsome progress still :) and the main thing is you tried your hardest hey, most the time;) but we all human and gotta live a little I guess, its a good feeling to start getting noticed that you growing hey, I miss that now haha,

What are your stats on now like weight an shit

An when you gonna post some pics bro :)

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26 Sep 2012 07:17 #123516 by DBatDBN
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I'm at a similar stage hey Pyro. Last shot of Test tomorrow! If I can recall you doing a Proviron+Winny bridge (60mg+50mg) too.
I gained over 10kg during my 1st cycle and have already started cutting a bit. Dropped the calories, popping CLA, some early morning cardio (sloooow cardio). I am terrified of losing my hard earned muscle, so I also started GH 2 weeks ago and ramping it up to 4iu from next week, and up more from there.

How long you going to wait before you start another cycle?
I know the rule is "time on cycle = time off", but it seems that VERY few people actually do this. I'm not in a hurry as I need the break from them fucking long needles, but I was thinking along the lines of 4 months.

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26 Sep 2012 07:50 #123519 by MRfeathers
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ha ha DJ has very high standards. but you have done extremely well bro.. you should be chuffed! so what are your thoughts on doing a second cycle now? i remember you never sounded too keen a while back.. what fat burners are you using during your bridge if any? im going to be stacking clen and yohimbine for the 1st time. ive used them both seperately but never together

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