Empire 2022 road to stage

ok gents, it is time for me to start a new log for a 2022 prep. i have had a productive off-season, using 250mg test and 200mg primo, then back down to 250mg test, and then added back the primo. i have been using UPA gear, and all the gear listed going forward will all be upa otherwise stated. All protein powders, and pre-workouts are from Doorman nutrition, and health supps vary.


So we are 16 weeks out from Kzn champs, and then 18 weeks out from SA champs, and this time, i am changing my approach slightly for this prep, and of course, i am going to be doing full transparency as always.

DISCLAIMER: 2 OF THE COMPOUNDS I AM USING ARE NOT TO BE FUCKED WITH, I HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE WITH THEM, AND NOT THEY CAN BOTH CAUSE DEATH, THIS IS NOT ME SAYING YOU GUYS SHOULD USE THEM, OR EVEN THAT I ADVOCATE THE USE OF THEM, I AM JUST STATING WHAT I AM DOING PERSONALLY FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES. LEARN THESE COMPOUNDS BACK TO FRONT BEFORE YOU CONSIDER USING THEM. I DONT CARE TO HEAR THIS IS STUPID OR ANY OTHER PETTY BULLSHIT, I KNOW THE RISKS I AM EMBARKING ON, AND HAVE USED THESE COMPOUNDS BOTH SEPERATELY! DO NOT JUST DO AS I DO, READ, LEARN, AND JUST INFORM YOURSELF.

ok so with out the way, here starts the prep log.

current stats :
Age 36
Height 182cm
Weight 99.2kg
bf, probably about 12%

Current cycle as of today 16 weeks out to 12 weeks out
300mg test e per week
200mg primo e per week.
50mg Anadrol pre-workout on training days
Insulin: 7iu pre-workout
DNP : 200mg.
glucophage :500mg morning and 500mg night.

Pre cardio: Test blood glucose for every 0.8 I am over 4.0 , 1 iu of insulin, With 200mg caffeine, 10mg yohimbine, 10mg cardarine.

Current cardio: 6000 steps a day plus 20mins incline walking (8000+/-) daily (cardarine, and yohimbine and caffeine pre cardio)

Current calorie intake 2950 : 265g P 290 C 65g F.

carbs 50g pre, 25g intra, 50g post. Pre and post workout carbs are from Nyala instant maize meal, intra carbs are HBCD from doorman.


current training :
Monday upper (chest, shoulders,back, triceps)
Tuesday Lower (Biceps, forearms, hammies, quads, and calves)

Thursday push (chest shoulder triceps)
Friday Pull (back, biceps, rear delts)
Saturday Legs (glutes, quads and hams and calves)

Health supps :
50mg zinc daily
500mg magnesium before bed
20mg telmisartan daily + 5mg cialis daily (blood pressure control, and keeping blood thinner etc.)
500mg Glucophage 2x daily.
alpha lipoic acid 400mg daily
NAC 600mg


Ok so here is the information everyone is probably dying to know about: Insulin.

I am using Novorapid at 7iu pre-workout, I check my blood glucose every morning! note I also train at 5 am, so the first meal goes in at 4:15, 15mins pre-workout insulin, and get to the gym 15min later as it is peaking. bcaas and intra workout carbs, and then post-workout, more carbs, and whey protein.
NOTE: when using insulin, you need to start as low as possible, and work your way up. I started at 3 iu pre-workout, and 2 iu post-workout during my offseason, and worked up 1iu every week, I found that the minute I went over 3 ius post-workout i got hypo symptoms, when i got to 7iu pre-workout, I found that even 2iu of slin post-workout gave me hypo symptoms, so I just dropped the slin post-workout.

I am using insulin pre-workout to drive the neurological effects of the insulin to drive the workout intensity, at this point in time, my recovery is still good, so I am not utilizing insulin for the recovery aspect, if i do, i will drop the pre-workout dose and make up that amount post-workout.

Now DNP also affects insulin levels and stops the effects on fat cells as well as muscle cells, so the calorie deficit and DNP burns the fat, the Anadrol + Insulin drives the workout anabolism to give you a recomp effect.

when i get to do cardio, i check blood glucose again, and I may take 1-2 iu of insulin depending on where my blood glucose is to get it down to 4.0 or less. i can only do cardio 2.5hours later after my post work out meal, and this morning, my bg was at 4.1 so i didn't even use the insulin to drive cardio.

DNP :
I am using 200mg daily, which is a dose that will accumulate to about a 20% increase in metabolic rate. DNP aids the binding affinity of certain drugs as well as the binding constant at the receptor, so with drugs with a shit binding affinity such as Anadrol (anapolin) it makes the binding affinity that much better. DNP can also raise blood glucose due to the fact it liberates fatty acids and moves them into the bloodstream before oxidation, hence why I may need a little insulin later on in the day to bring the Blood glucose down and shuttle glucose into the muscles during the cardio and training. The kicker here is that DNP makes you incredibly insulin sensitive so I am going to be monitoring Blood glucose very very closely and might drop that insulin dosing OR up my carbs pre-workout and pull carbs later on in the day.

Week 11-6
I will swap the Anadrol dose of 250mg per week for Masteron E at 200mg per week, and up the primo to 300mg. I will then access where I look 6 weeks out to add in orals and adjust masteron dosing.

i usually like running clen in cycles of 3 on 2 off, so at 14 weeks out from the show might add in clen, depending on how the rest of the fat burners are working. if I am dropping more than 800-1kg a week, I am inclined not to add burners in just yet, but instead, up my step count by 2000 and adjust. then just diet, then burners.

so 17 weeks out, to 16 weeks out, I cleaned up my diet, I got my step count on point, and my weight came down from 101.2 down to 99.2 with no real hassles. So I am confident other than some water retention from both the Anadrol and the DNP, my weight will still come down.

As I say, this is, this is a complete experiment, log, and informational post. I know the risks and dangers, and I know the procedure. I still don't suggest anyone run DNP at high doses, Longer, lower slower is always best. And currently the weather in KZN is dark and gloomy and cold, so at least I'm not going to run into overheating issues. PLEASE DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS AND THINK OH FUCK THAT 200MG IS FOR PUSSIES, AND 7IU FOR INSULIN IS A WASTE! THESE COMPOUNDS ARE HIGHLY EFFECTIVE SO DONT BE A CUNT AND THINK MORE IS GOING TO WORK BETTER.

Today was day 1, and it's going to be interesting to see how the next 4 weeks go, and if the fat burning isn't as good as I hoped for I can always drop the insulin.

Good luck and all the best. Playing with some serious shit there.

i guess with any application of any drug, there needs to start low and figure out what works person depending. As i say, i have been using insulin in my offseason, and have been super careful to track my BG and figure out what dosing is right.

many people take insulin and then make up the food to match the insulin, that is the incorrect way, well the dangerous way. the best way is to keep your current diet and match the insulin that.

so many guys just want to use 10iu cos they think that is a magic number then take 100g of carbs to match that dosing and they end up getting fat. If you are taking 50g of carbs, then match that with 5iu of insulin. its been quite a different experience using the insulin i must admit, pumps, and driving the workout have been crazy.

@Empire:
Will you take DNP every 24hrs?
Half-life appears to be every 36 hrs so I wonder if that "accumulation" (gradual serum level increase), is something you are wanting.

Also DNP + Metformin? or drop metformin?
Either way I am about as curious as I have been for a log.

MPhilosopher wrote: @Empire:
Will you take DNP every 24hrs?
Half-life appears to be every 36 hrs so I wonder if that "accumulation" (gradual serum level increase), is something you are wanting.

Also DNP + Metformin? or drop metformin?
Either way I am about as curious as I have been for a log.

Yes every 24 hours. Every 100mg you take daily usually results in a 10% increase in metabolic rate. So build up should get around 300mg so maybe more than I'm hoping for..

Yes still using metaformin for other health benefits as I am with the gw50516 for reducing cholesterol, anti inflammation, longevity etc. I may just be able to get away with less insulin moving forward.

Im mistaken, I just checked the build up, after about 19 days there is a build up to about 500mg in the system..

Day 1 done and dusted.

Weight : 98.2kgs fasted bg 4.1.

Nothing new to report other than pissed like a race horse through the night.

If I had a chance of doing fasted cardio this morning vs training I would have been in the ideal place blood glucose wise with cardio. After 20mins on the treadmill I could predict that bg being down enough to be liberating fat nicely.

No changes in body temp as of yet, and hunger is still ok at this point even on 2950 calories. If weight drops too fast I will up my calories a bit and see how I respond.

Shot for the update. Eager to see the comparison to the last show!

Good luck man,
Eager to see the reults

98.4 after legs yesterday, and fasted blood glucose of 3.8, no need for insulin pre cardio, just taking burners and off I go.

Empire wrote: 98.4 after legs yesterday, and fasted blood glucose of 3.8, no need for insulin pre cardio, just taking burners and off I go.

That's low, low 4s I feel shit, I'm surprised you didn't feel super hypo at 3.8

Funny enough even at 2.9 the only signs of hypoglycemia I get is a slight trembling in my hands. So luckily I do treadmill work at home so I have instant food on hand, and even then those symptoms dissipate quite quickly after cardio stops. I always have a couple sachets of sugar on my treadmill if things get wonky, I just put into my mouth and dissolve under the tounge.

And note the 2.9 was after cardio without taking any insulin pre cardio.

It just shows how different people are. In the 3s I can't even understand my brother, and when he gets to 2s he always immediately passes out and falls into a coma state and we have bring him out with a glucagon pen.

Yea look to be honest there obviously varying degrees of hypoglycemia, and being in a low level state when doing cardio is a good place to be as the body has to liberate, mobilize and oxidize fat to fill that gap of glucose in the blood. Now your brother is full blown type 1 and knows his body and insulin levels needed.

This whole being mindful of blood glucose and where it is during certain times of the day for me has been new aswell as an eye opener. Looking at the way things are going with the dnp, I'm going to reduce my insulin dosage pre workout due to the increase in sensitivity. How ever, my weight has dropped quite nicely over yhe start of the week if I'm being honest, and I'm very happy about that,I'm anticipating a further drop tomorrow morning, and I will then do photos on Saturday, if the weight keeps coming off this fast, I'm gonna be in a great place to increase calories closer to the show with the staggering up the dosages meaning I could potentially grow into the show more so than I usually do.

That's also true, the times of the day does play into things as well, as well as a sudden drop from an elevated reading. I'm guess that is why it affects my brothers more because they not working between 4s and 5s, now it could be 20 and then the drop to 4 is going to make you feel way worse than going from 5 to 4. Makes sense..

That's some drastic weight, it's going to be super interesting how things play out this time around.

Didn't you want to try play more of the mass game this time around? I didn't see many markers you could have worked on to try and have them score better? If I recall you where actually penalized for being to conditioned?

So arms still need to come up, I have made good improvements to shoulder and back width so that will make a big change to waste size. Issue last year is I did 0 carb most of the prep, and I dieter for 22 weeks and it was too long. So I lost alot of fullness in certain places. This time I'm keeping carbs in as high as possible, and working on that wider shoulders and bigger arms and maybe bringing legs down a little. I will still push that condition as always and this time hopefully lower back will come in even tighter. I still had 4 kgs to go to max the weight limit so I have 4kgs to be bigger in certain places.

Ok that's a ton of muscle then.. yay!
Super excited.

How do you target where you want to put that 4kgs? What percentage of the 4kg's will go where you want it to?

I've targeted more side delt work, I've also put in more arm volume. I had a bicep injury this last couple weeks that really annoyed the shit out of me cos I had to scale back to pink dumbell weights, but that should change this week now, I also have been getting needling done on my Biceps and triceps to loosen them up to allow more growth. In the off season, I added a bit more 1 arm work to start and activate my lats more before going into other width based exercises.

98.2 again after a rest day, and blood glucose of 4.2 fasted. Can say that things are looking good at the moment. Weight didn't shift, but then again could be retaining a bit of water from yohimbine and anadrol and dnp.

Had a chiro session for 2 hours yesterday getting everything adjusted, and my bicep and triceps needled, looking forward to see how that goes with arm growth seeing I haven't been able to use more than pink dumbells for Bicep on the left.

Dont diss the pink DB's... Wife uses them and she can smack hard!


Hoep the bicep comes right man. Would changing up your diet help repair that damage quicker? Ie, more caloires, or eating more protein etc? Or is it better to just stay on the current plan and let the needling and chiro work its magic?

Tendon strain just takes longer to repair bud, my diet is pretty good at the moment, 2950 calories is still plenty high enough to make progress and repair at this stage, I might get some bpc 157 and try that out. It would be first time using peptides dor this, but my triceps today look much fuller during training after getting some work done on them. So I'm seeing the chiro again tomorrow for some more work on them both, so let's see what comes of this.

Ok so hunger is kicking in today, like a bitch. I've done 8000 steps for the day already, and I have 2 meals left for the day, this is a 1 of 2 things. 1 the amount of steps is pushing up the hunger, or 2 the dnp has reached a decent concentration. I'm feeling a bit warmer today for sure, but nothing that isn't bearable, it's about 22 degrees here and if feels as if it is about 27-28 to me. Fluid intake is good so I'm not terribly worried at this point.

Training today, I didn't make progress on my top sets with Weight or reps, but My back off sets I did. So there was still progress never the less.

Dude you are an angel for providing us with this wealth of knowledge you give us as forum members. You inspire open source knowledge which i dearly respect. Bless you and you passion.

Thanks Aconotine. The whole purpose of this sort of open based log is to show people that you number 1. Don't need to over do drugs to get into shredded condition. Number 2. There is a synergy when it comes to drugs and an application for each one of them. Number 3. Your nutrition and training needs to be on point to make the most of said drugs. Number 4. I like being open on honest about things so my clients can see I walk the talk I put out there, as well as if a coach tells you to throw more drugs and eat less food and do more cardio all at once they do not understand the idea of milking each stage for what it is worth before having to up anything.

I am an advocate for lower doses these days as all I saw was side effects from blast doses before the results. Longevity is what I want, and still want to be decent looking in my 60s without health complications.

I've seen guys go to coaches and the starting dose of a cycle is higher than my end dose and these guys look like shit. All they do is throw more drugs into the mix to combat the side effects instead of just pulling back doses of certain compounds..

I'm glad that you are following this, it is going to be interesting to see what I can achieve this prep and if I can make the well needed improvements.