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23 May 2022 08:42 #227562 by Empire
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I've learnt my body needs at least a day to process my skipload before I train, this morning I didn't make any real progress cos I was still dehydrated from the load, I'm still trying to suck down water but can feel it's taking me a while to process the food from yesterday, I also pulled my carbs back down pre and post workout and split the insulin from 10 to 7/3 pre and post. I'm gonna probably add in 1 unit per meal for this week, topping out at 15 units for the day. Just trying to see how that keeps pulling glucose from the blood for the body to use more fat for energy as blood glucose will be lower the whole day.

Didn't get my steps in this weekend either due to the wonderful kzn weather, howling wind and flood like rains aswell as no power. I thought I would just do treadmill for steps cos my treadmill is in the garage how ever eskom had other plans for me.

12 weeks to go and lowest this last week was 95 I'm in a good space. But I want to see that down to 93ish this week if I'm being completely honest, once I'm at 91kgs I will be happier cos that will be my cut off weight and I can manipulate things to better suite lean muscle growth and fat loss at the same time. Also at 10 weeks out there will be some gear changes, like dropping anadrol, adding In masteron and pushing up primo by 100mg to Match the drop in 250mg anadrol weekly.

Saw some people on Friday night I hadn't seen in 2 weeks and they were pretty impressed how much leaner I am, but also fuller..so the insulin is doing a great job of lean muscle mass growth, but I want to try every meal dosing this week aswell as insulin is incredibly anti catabolic at the same time.
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25 May 2022 06:20 #227574 by Empire
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Sorry for the lack of check-in, fiber and cell reception has been so shit since the flooding, again, this past weekend. Think some water has gotten into the system and Nemo is still trying to find a connection. Roads are washed away and the ground is sodden, so I'm pretty sure that has had some effect on the telecommunications in the area. Big bonus, I don't live in umhloditi and still have a home that hasn't sunken into the ocean, some residents needed to be airlifted and even transported across the mud in ski boats which were headed up by the NSRI. One of the big developments that have basically stripped the land and don't have proper drainage in place released a statement saying their development is fine, but all the homes in front of the development have been washed away by landslides and mud due to not having proper runoffs. It is laughable, to say the least, there is some big protest happening there today to take the developers to task after this.

ok, so my weight this morning of 95.0kg 2 days after my load which is the lowest I got last week.

Recovery has been a bit kak this week, and although didn't make much progress in the first 2 sessions on my top sets, I have made progress on the back offsets. my leg workout yesterday was about an hour and 40 minutes which is madness, but since our seated hamstring curl machine is out of action currently, and so is my favorite laying hamstring curl machine(the only 1 in my gym I can actually use) I had to move to single-leg standing hamstring curls, which just takes 2x as long being unilateral.

weight is dropping quite quickly since adding in the insulin with each meal, and I'm hoping that this aids the recovery this week, and allows for me to make progress from there. It's the last week on this clen blast so will come off of that on Sunday and will have to compensate for the drop in clen by making sure steps are on point.

so far, today is my rest day, and I'm sitting at 5600 for the day, I honestly didn't want to go out on the road, and when I stepped outside to start walking, my ball bag did tighten somewhat due to the fact it was fucking cold, but I pushed through and kept on saying this is why habit and discipline trumps talent and genetics, I repeated this in my head pretty much the whole of the 50min walk, to make sure I did what I needed to!

I have a chiro session this evening, and I would rather stick needles in my eyes than sit through what is coming. we are getting stuck into my quads tonight and they have been neglected in terms of a treatment since last year. so I know this is going to suck a bag of dicks having the needles jammed into the vastus lat and into the ITB and calves, but I gotta do what I gotta do. Triceps will probably be hit too, again, I suspect, but the fullness when I train in my triceps now is pretty awesome which just goes to show how bound up with impingements they have been for so many years.
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26 May 2022 13:17 #227590 by Oupa
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Did you survive the chiro session lol?

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27 May 2022 07:07 #227596 by Empire
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Barely, I was worked on for 3 hours, over 40 acupuncture needles in bicep, triceps, calves, quads, lats and terres. There where a bunch of 3rd year students there that were observing, so I got chatting to 1 of them, and just got her to start learning how to needle, to say she shat herself is an understatement, but they eventually realized they weren't gonna break or hurt me. But my fuck I'm battling with recovery cos of it.

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27 May 2022 12:45 #227598 by Oupa
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Empire wrote: Barely, I was worked on for 3 hours, over 40 acupuncture needles in bicep, triceps, calves, quads, lats and terres. There where a bunch of 3rd year students there that were observing, so I got chatting to 1 of them, and just got her to start learning how to needle, to say she shat herself is an understatement, but they eventually realized they weren't gonna break or hurt me. But my fuck I'm battling with recovery cos of it.


3 hours ! fck ouch

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28 May 2022 09:51 #227601 by Obelix
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Where do you get the needling done?

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30 May 2022 08:14 #227611 by Empire
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We have a chiro clinic here that travel to sports events etc to get patient numbers up. There is a big issue currently at the DUT where there are riots and people burning shit down over a host of issues: residential issues, fee issues, no internet for online lectures, and now covid vaccines. It's madness
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31 May 2022 08:31 #227618 by Empire
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ok so I have been a bit off the radar as of Thursday last week, shit came up I needed to sort out, nothing too hectic just time-consuming as such.

so as for updates, I was running out of Glucophage and didn't have a chance to get more, I cut my dosing down to 250mg (half a tab) as I knew I was going to be out for about a week when Sunday came when I had a refeed, my god did the heat of the DNP hit me like a wave, now I know what my ex-wife is going to feel like in the afterlife. Gut mobility started coming right, I was at a stage where I was going once every 2nd day, whereas now it is once to twice a day, all of a sudden things are moving along quite quickly, so I am not sure if the Glucophage has been slowing down my digestion somewhat and MOA of certain compounds, but I never once got the upset stomach from Glucophage, quite the opposite.


so update on the gear, I added in some masteron last Friday, 200mg a week, and this week I am upping my primo dose to 300. Now I know that everyone will say why not run one or the other, as the compounds are very similar. I don't like taking advantage of my supply and im, not one to just use the most expensive shit all year round and take advantage. Also, there are subtle differences in each compound so im keen to see if there is any synergy between the two, together. I may just be spinning my wheels, but at this stage, I will not know if I don't try.

I am going to be dropping the Anadrol soon, so I thought I would get those 2 doses up to build up in the system to compensate before the dropping of the anadrol.

current PEDs and probably where they are going to stay running into the show, barring a few little add-ons.

Masteron 200MG
Primobolan E 300MG
Test E 300mg
Anadrol 250mg
so sitting at 1050mg per week currently, which is really the upper limit of where I want to take things. 12mg per kg is where I would max out and at 94kgs that's about 1130mg per week.

so when the Anadrol is pulled at 10 weeks out, I will take 4 weeks off, and then at 6 weeks out of the show, I will add in 30mg of Anavar 15mg post-workout, and 15mg before bed on training days. And I will add in 60mg of tren ace, 20mg Monday Wednesday, and Friday. so that will be a total of 210mg load, which puts me at 1010mg per week.
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06 Jun 2022 08:31 #227646 by Empire
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Ok so I'm a bit behind on updates here, and I'm sorry. Ok so weight went all over the show, lowest it came down to was 95.4 and I was really confused at this. Checked with my supplier, the 200mg dnp caps I have, are 125mg, and probably a 100mg at most. So since Saturday I have doubled my dnp dose. Then I pulled the insulin thinking it's been counter productive and anadrol is dropped. Endurance and strength is down, and exhaustion Is up. Only shit thing about training alone now is that I can't actually edge out a few more reps with a spot.

So I'm finally getting warm from the dnp being at the right dose now. Pulling insulin sucks cos the pump during training is crap. I've also lowered weights by 10% due to anadrol being lifted..

I did a pretty massive refeed yesterday and Have changed things up a little. Diet has come down to 2650 calories from 2950, I pulled some fat. I have also started 20mins of moderate intensity treadmill at 4am, then eat and train at 5:15am. Then 20mins post work out on the Incline treadmill. I'm trying not to go over 10 000 steps at this stage, but making the steps harder. So 6000 steps will be done in 20min increments 3x a day. Plus steps done during the day and in the gym.

Masteron is kicking in for sure. Mentally I'm more edgy and have been over thinking alot of things and it's not great, but also makes me not be a kicking post for people.

I'm adding in healthy u labs tudca in today aswell, there is a bit of research I have been doing into it, and it helps with converting t4 to t3 to the liver. Increases egfr and also improves insulin sensitivity. All great things when using gear.
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07 Jun 2022 13:23 #227663 by Obelix
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Empire wrote: Masteron is kicking in for sure. Mentally I'm more edgy and have been over thinking alot of things and it's not great, but also makes me not be a kicking post for people.


Dont let that get you in trouble now.

Keep up the good work man, really opening our eyes to what needs to be done to look like you do

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08 Jun 2022 06:48 #227668 by Empire
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nothing to cause me to get into trouble with in reality, just over the shit I have with people really.

93.6kgs this morning, DNP is working, Anadrol is leaving the system, cardio is working, calorie drop is working. feeling flat as fuck, but hey, it is what it is. DEPENDING on how the rest of this week goes, I may add a bit of insulin back in pre-workout, 3-4ius. the fullness and pumps are gone during training as well as probably needing a deload, but i will continue to chip away at progressing with strength.

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13 Jun 2022 08:39 #227732 by Obelix
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Wheres the updates? Missing the experiment and progress man!

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13 Jun 2022 09:10 #227734 by Empire
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sorry for the slack replies, it's getting rough out here.

I spoke to my 2nd set of eyes last week and he felt I was behind, but then when i saw the owner of my nutrition brand sponsor, he was like what the hell, you are looking peeled with plenty of time to go. he hasn't seen me in 3 weeks and he says the amount of body fat that has come off in 3 weeks is astounding.

so I jacked things up anyway, I upped my cardio to 20mins 2x a day on the treadmill and then 6000 steps after that. I have a shitty treadmill that I have propped up on some planks to make it an incline, so my heart rate sits at about 130-145bpm during the cardio session. I start at 4.8km/h and increase by 0.1km/h every minute for 5 mins, then pull down to 4.8km/h. I wake up at 3:40, take caffeine and yohimbine, and then 15mins later hit the treadmill. cool down for 25mins, then eat my pre-workout meal, and head to the gym to be there by 5:00-5:15

strength and endurance are suffering from the additional DNP, labored breathing, and whatnot, but it's cool I got down to the lowest of 93.2 last week, so it's all good. i had a decent controlled load yesterday, 2 biiiiig meals, pushed the carbs hard, and then made some American biscuits, which forced the fat a bit higher, but hey, it's all good.

this week I started on the clen again, so I expect a decent drop this week. added back in 3iu of insulin pre-workout just to keep fullness and using it for its anti-catabolic cascades.

diet this week I'm pulling fat down, and calories will be at 2400kcal daily, protein 250, carbs 260, fat as low as it goes.
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13 Jun 2022 09:15 #227736 by Obelix
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Arent you worried about overdoing it? It sounds like you are really pushing, like as in way too hard. (That is my internet doctorate talking) . I know you know your body better than anyone else, but it sounds like a warzone at your house


Keep up the work, but remember, we need empire for many many more years

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13 Jun 2022 09:16 #227737 by Empire
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id rather be ready with 4ish weeks to spare and push food back in, than sitting on the fence later on in the game where you are clutching at straws.

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13 Jun 2022 09:24 #227740 by Empire
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also remember, being contest shredded is not your normal just beach body lean, you want to be inside out, so I'm not leaving jack shit up to chance. i will start tren next week cos calories are quite low, and i will probably start at 60mg per week, 20mg 3x.
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15 Jun 2022 08:00 #227767 by Empire
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91.2 this morning 3 days into my clen cycle, I'm dropping weight quickly with the cardio, calorie changes and addition dnp and clen. Will 100% be adding back the insulin pre workout for the anti catabolic cascades and to drive some growth the way things are going.

Still pushing hard In the gym and will be adding in the tren from next week. I'm still in my own head with the dosing, I'm wondering if I should do 100mg per week or 60mg based on current fat loss etc. So it's a little dilemma in my own head but it is what it is. This is why prepping yourself is such a mental game. Wll I know is that when the tren is too high my sleep is less than 0, so that's why I don't want to, or need to go over a 100mg per week.
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15 Jun 2022 15:51 #227771 by Obelix
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What would your body weight be if you didnt take the medical extra's, just trained and ate right?

could you get down to the fat % you are now?

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15 Jun 2022 16:23 #227772 by Empire
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no idea, I dont care to even think cos being natty is shit. i don't really factor what my natural body weight would be because I'm enhanced :)

yes, I could get down to that bf% for sure, but would I look like a string bean? yes.
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17 Jun 2022 05:00 #227797 by Empire
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Since adding back the insulin, weight is up slightly, up to 92kgs but looking fuller and leaner. I'm only dosing 3iu pre workout and the strength is coming back and so is the roundness and fullness that I had lost.

Just my lower back and love handles that are holding on to fat and water as they are soft and squishy, but still there..meh. just keep on pushing on and doing my daily thing..

Tren will start on Monday, that should have some interaction with the fat cells nicely and start letting go of that cortisol based fat from there. Should be able to maintain my weight and still lean out and hold alot of muscle from here.
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19 Jun 2022 11:55 #227806 by Obelix
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Nice one man,

How are you dealing with added aggression, or depression etc? sorting it out on your own or adding chems to balance it out? I know you mentioned your sleeping , but was wondering about anything else,

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20 Jun 2022 04:55 #227812 by Empire
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I'm managing quite well at the moment, I mean a little more edgy than normal but thar could be diet related aswell as I'm pretty tired and hungry most of the time.

So I started the golden tren elixir this morning. 20mg pre workout, will run it 5 days a week, at 20mg a day. I won't go past 100mg a week with it. So starting dosing is my ending dosing.
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21 Jun 2022 08:18 #227830 by Empire
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day 2 of the tren, and I must admit seeing I haven't used the stuff since 2017 I forgot how the acid reflux is a bitch and the trensomnia, I passed out for a good 6 hours last night, but then woke up right as rain an hour before my alarm. KAK.

hitting the treadmil hard 30mins 2x a day at the moment, heart rate staying in the 130-140 zone, and then still getting in like 4000 additional steps a day to the cardio sessions. so really pushing thing now. i want to look inside out soon!
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22 Jun 2022 10:06 #227836 by Empire
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ok so update time, weight is down to 92kgs this morning after my load this weekend.

I am stopping the DNP for 2 weeks as I have built up a tolerance to it, so a 2-week break and then I will start again at 150mg, and run it for 2ish weeks, and then drop it 2-3 weeks out to allow the water to come off. I could carry on increasing the dosage due to tolerance, but id like to see what I look like with some fullness and have some water come off of me, and just give me a little break. I will still be on the clen for the next 2 weeks so fat burning will not halt during that time. I will see how I feel when it starts to drop off and might add in another 20mins of cardio a day to offset the caloric difference of being off of the dnp.

otherwise, things are looking good, still holding fat on my lower back, but it will come off and probably have some water floating in there, due to fat and dnp. so let's see what happens when I come off for a bit.

otherwise not too much else to report. acid reflux from the tren sucks. sleep is ok, but all in all, still happy.
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22 Jun 2022 14:37 #227837 by 00pump
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Nice update, glad it's going well. How's the head space?

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