Empire 2022 road to stage

98.1 this morning blood glucose of 4.3 this am, sleep was good woke up 3x to pee but fell back to sleep pretty easily. How ever the dnp is kicking in for sure. Normal walking around I'm noticing I'm mouth breathing when I make sure I generally breathe through my nose. Slightly sweaty in the gym, and recovery is a little longer than usual.

Clearly the DNP and anapolin and insulin is masking "weight" loss, because I for sure will still be dropping body fat.

Nice weight, this long to go

What brand of DNP are you using, if I may ask?

They are yellow and orange caps, sadly no branding.

So update, I went for a "chiro session" today. I say that loosely as this guy might aswell have been a Chinese acupuncturist. My triceps have always been a weakness cos they are so bound up, and going for deep tissue massage feels as if someone is trying to cleave the muscle from bone. He probably went through about 30 needles as half of them bent from muscle contraction when he hit trigger points, he then went in and did a technique known as grip and rip to break down some of the muscle adhesions and then got in with some deep tissue work afterwards. After 2 hours I was pretty bent I won't lie, but they are no longer as hard as rock and they are more spongey. He made a comment it feels like pushing a needle through a gravel road due to the adhesion build up over the years.

I am now able to get a bit more contraction in the triceps and have another session scheduled for Monday after an upper body training session. So things are going to be really really interesting if I can get proper movement and contraction going, there will he some fresh new muscle gains for sure.

97.7kgs this am, with 4.3 blood glucose. Things are working nicely, I saw some people yesterday that I hadn't seen in a while and they were pretty blown way with how I'm looking for this far out.

17 weeks out 101.2
15 weeks out 97.7
Not bad for 2 weeks doing minimal cardio, and not feeling too taxed at all. 3.5kgs is a good drop still eating close on 3000 calories. Yesterday I did go a little over by probably 200 calories from milk in an almond milk cuppachino and I had to do a taste test on a product for doorman. But all in all I'm happy.

The weight is dropping fast.. how many steps over the last 5 days ?

8000 on average, yesterday, 10500. So 50500 in 5 days.

I'm still feeling good, hunger is ok, nothing to bad. But I might push my refeed another week and milk this stage I am at.

ok so been quite the last few days, bit of life stress. a month ago, my father has a double pulmonary embolism, and spent a week in hospital, they put him on blood thinner which after 3 weeks resulted in blood in his urine, the warfarin levels need to be between 2 and 2.5, and his was sitting at 4.5, so they were worried about internal bleeding, so he was readmitted. So that little bit of stress wasn't great.

i did a refeed on Sunday night, couple slices of toast and some fruit, about 800 calories about my 2950 for the day, and for the life of me i couldn't sleep, so i ran on 3.5 hours sleep on Monday morning and did my cardio first thing, and ended up training later in the day, and well my session sucked. should have bailed for the day, but i didn't.

i have also run out of glucose strips, so i didn't get a chance to test fasted levels this weekend how ever this morning 2 days after my refeed was 97.5. which is a good drop.

step count has been above the 8000 this weekend, just cos I was really active walking up and down, sorting out shit, etc.

Things should come back to normal.

today's legs went well, I did switch up my 1 exercise for quads cos I was not feeling it for the last couple of sessions, so from normal hack squats to reverse hack squats, and my strength was much much higher, so I was happy. RDLs went up another 2 reps from Saturday's session so it's nearly up to 4 plates a side, I will probably try that this Saturday for leg session 2!

Really sorry to hear that, your dad is a really good oke.

INR levels are a bitch to manage and change so rapidly depending on what you eat, getting sick, bla bla bla. Could he not be switched to xarelto? It's a single dose medication, everyone takes the same dose and you don't need to do weekly blood tests and watch what you eat? It's unfortunately not cheap at around 1k a month though.

The doctor was away this weekend so his father was doing locum for him, 2 cardiologists in the same family with a daughter that is a neuro surgeon, he is going to motivate to his medical aid to have it on chronic and see from there, seems it would be worth the copayment. He will find out today if it is possible.

Definitely worth it, the only danger with xeralto was not way to stop the bleeding if in an accident or something where with warfarin is easy. The good news is ERs now have the ability to counter it if need be.

The motivation makes sense and the risk of them not paying a good portion proposes many other risks, so the motivation should work.

I'm sorry to hear about your dad. I hope the docs can sort him out.

How many weeks out do you stop the DNP? I'm not clued up on DNP protocols so I wouldn't know, but 12-14 weeks seems like a long way out from comp to start? Or is it mainly to offset the potential fat gain from slin without HGH?

Very interesting stack. Keen to see how it all works out. I'll be rooting for you.

So that is the thing that people get wrong about insulin. If you are eating too much yes, it will enhance fat storage, but if you are in a calorie deficit, and use it in the right settings you can still loose fat as the mechanism of action is actually pretty anti catabolic in nature. Novorapid has got a 3-6 hour window of action, so when I'm using pre workout slin, even with 125g of carbs around that shot, 2 hours after my post workout meal my blood glucose level is down to what it is fasted( between 3.8 and 4.1) which means glucose has cleared the blood stream and if I do cardio I do it in a semi hypo state which means the body need glucose to run on, and seeing these is only the glucose in the blood that gets burned off the body is forced to liberate and mobilize fat into the blood (triglycerides and glycerol) to fuel the body. So at that point the insulin is putting me in a fat burning state to go searching for glucose from body fat.

So I was using pre workout insulin before I added in the dnp and androl and my weight and body fat was coming down because of the deficit.

There are studies where dnp has been used for 6-12 months at 250mg daily in morbidly obese patients with no health concerns. If my weight continues to drop rapidly, I would drop the dnp down to 200mg eod (100mg daily) to run it longer..

Thing with dnp it enhances binding constant and affinity of certain drugs, now anadrol had a great binding affinity but a shit binding constant, so the dnp enhances the anadrols effect on the body, better gains with less water from the anadrol. Dan Duchain once called dnp and insulin the poor man's igf1 and to be honest this combo has been pretty cool.

I saw someone today who hadn't seen me for 3 weeks and just stood there and said what the fuck have you been doing cos you look like you are about 15% bigger and my face is so much leaner and more vascular. So I'm pretty happy with things are only 10 days into the dnp.

As 00pump can attest, his brothers are both type 1 diabetics and if the premise of insulin makes you fat, then all type ones would be fat essentially.

The rabbit hole of insulin is deep and been really cool to learn and implement, and once you learn all the other benefits of it, and applications, it's pretty cool.

Copied from another forum from a really intelligent guy.


First off remember the basics of fat loss. We liberate, mobilize, and then oxidize fatty acids. If your in a caloric surplus we can potentially redistribute fatty acids else where. If we are in a caloric deficit we can oxidize the fat as fuel.

If you take a dose of exogenous insulin that brought your blood sugar down your body HAS TO fill up that energy gap and can do so by tapping into stored sources of fatty acids. Keep in mind this does not mean we are ONLY oxidizing store fatty acids as an energy source but rather we can PREDOMINATELY oxidize these stores as our main source of fuel.

So using exogenous insulin feds into the process of our body “looking for an immediate fuel source.” When blood sugar is not available, it looks for the next fuel source. This is where the exogenous insulin comes into play and forces our body to fill in the ATP energy gap with stored body fat rather than glucose.

This is one of the reasons I’m in favor of fasted cardio with a GDA or exogenous insulin administered beforehand. At the end of the day, this is a very SMALL part of the equation and should be taken as such. Basic energy balance will always reign supreme. BUT if we can enhance lipolysis or hypertrophy by a couple extra % everyday, then I truly believe over time that difference adds up on stage. NOTE: THIS IS NOT FOR YOUR AVERGE JOE JUST LOOKING FOR ABS FOR SUMMER TIME. Keep things in context.

96.7kgs this morning, didn't get a chance to get my glucose strips yesterday. Decided to take a somnil last night to aid my sleep, and it knocked me out, but still woke up go pee, off to get some steps in this morning, things are moving and shifting fast, so it's going to be really interesting seeing that I haven't even been on this combo for 2 weeks yet.

I had another needling session yesterday and man I'm excited to see if I get more growth in certain places now that my muscles are moving better with no impingement.

2 hour post carb meal and blood glucose sitting at 4.3 which means I am clearing glucose super fast and in a good place.

That's pretty impressive. How you feeling as a whole? Hung over from the somnil or happy you slept?

97.2 with blood glucose of 4.8. My sleep is so erratic at the moment, like I'm out cold but wake up 3x a night to piss. Annoying I won't lie. So if you don't believe sleep has any effect on your blood glucose levels, there is your answer.

Somnil did have me feeling a bit drunk in the middle of the morning during 1 of my meetings, but it's ok..

So I have a bottle of mk677 here, which 00pump so graciously donated to me a LONG time ago, I am considering trying 5mg a night just to see what effect it has on my sleep patterns, and if that dose will end up fucking with my fasted blood glucose, or hunger for that matter. As you all know, I'm pretty much not the biggest fan of mk677 unless you are using it to drive hunger because of the effects on blood glucose and insulin resistance, but the more I read into it for sleep, I might get away with 5mg EOD to push that sleep. I will need to break out the mini scale and see what I can do as they are 15mg LP caps, so I am pretty sure I can dose out 1/3 of a cap on that scale.

And I just realized why my sleep is so fucked. I have been pushing 7 weeks straight on this blast, and I am a week over due for a back off week, makes alot of sense at this stage, weight progression has stalled out, hunger has been a bit dull, sleep is trash, blood glucose is slightly higher due to the lack of sleep. Next week, weights come down 20% and reps come down 15-20%.

How long before the comp? Can you last going at this pace?

Is this a normal lifestyle for you? or are you at 150%?

The way things are going I'm not suffering at all at this stage, I will up my step count to 10 000 next week and start a clen cycle, this year I'm trying to keep food volume high!

Will have a decent refeed this weekend, push the carbs more so than I did last time, but at this stage I'm just cruising..

I'm loving my meals, so it's easy, on off days I still keep calories at 2950, but I make up the difference I am loosing in my pre and post workout meals from fruit.

That was a long time ago with that mk677, I remember turning into a balloon, you however pretty tight on things, maybe it's what you need now..

Also something that might be playing is your Magnesium RBC count. I just did a bunch of bloods and I'm not doing anything in excess and noticed my Magnesium levels where low.. My endo put me on Magnesium boost, I think its changed names now but it's the best absorbable Magnesium. And that effects 250 different things, sleep being one of them. Maybe it's worth supplementing some Magnesium.